To quote you, with all due respect, I did not just make the world more stupid. Maybe my comparison was a bit large and grand scale but I was trying to get the point across. I was hoping that since you were all hyped up about taking these things that you'd be dumb enough to believe anything you heard. And I think I'm a bit more taken aback that you have looked at research about such things and you still think that anyone who is warning you against them is complete bullshit. Did you ever think that maybe ppl here don't want you to jeopardize your health? That maybe we're throwing out ideas that are risk free when diet pills, OTC or prescribed by a doctor, are never risk free? About four years ago I took Hydroxycut with a friend of mine in college and I was honestly ripped on the amount of caffeine and had trouble sleeping. Not a side effect of everyone but some I'm sure. And if your immune system is screwed up and you need at least 12 hours of sleep, I'm afraid that starting to take pills like Stackers is going to affect how much you want to sleep. Also I am very aware that alcohol is more dangerous than most drugs... legal and illegal. But in the end you will do what you want and reading this entire thread you have only been nice to those ppl who are telling you what you want to hear, which is rude. It's a shame when someone honestly tries to help you and you go all postal on them because you disagree to the point of insulting them.

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