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Old July 5th, 2008, 05:01 PM
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If I were going to be looking to read an author/researcher though about the topic I'd probably lean toward Lyle McDonald. I mean, he's the one that really brought Leptin into light for the fitness community.
Well, I said "look into the work of Dr. John Berardi", not "prostrate and pray to an image of".

So you're implying that we should discard any offerings from the likes of Berardi, Lonnie Lowery, Will Brink, Mike Roussell, Joel Marion, Tim Ziegenfuss, Chris Lockwood, Christopher Mohr and all the other knowledgeable men and women working in this field? What about those working silently in the 'background', including the people that the current experts have (or are) studied under. I'm not even sure that McDonald would be flattered by your sentiment.

And leptin? There's nothing magical about leptin. You may want to re-read your Lyle McDonald collection.

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This really depends on how much body fat one is carrying. You left that out here and that makes a big difference. If one plateaus and is still carrying a good bit of fat, chances are it has more to do with not dropping calories enough below their new maintenance than anything else.

Granted, a break is a great psychological buffer, but beyond that in an overweight individual, I wouldn't use the word "probably" above.
I have seen many cases where a highly motivated dieter was eating far fewer calories than recommended at time. Sometimes as few as 500 calories, which only became apparent after looking at the person's food log. This seems to happen *after* the dieter 'unknowingly' lowers calories in response to a plateau. Not everyone screws up their 'diet' by eating too much.

In those cases, what I recommended works - and on the ground - not just on a piece of paper that cites dozens of scientific publications to support a pet viewpoint...


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You mean some types of nutrients?

A calorie is a calorie is a calorie.
Which is exactly what you nutrition experts say when you mean to talk about the calories from protein, fat, carbs, alcohol, ketones, etc. But yes, I wasn't clear and thanks for pointing it out.

I'm surprised that you even say that a calorie is a calorie after citing Lyle McDonald. As I said, re-read your Lyle McDonald collection.

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Oh yea, and the link in your sig was removed. You might want to read over the forum rules before posting.
Well, this is from the FAQ, but point taken, I'll read the rules again:

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The link in my sig was simply to my blog. In fact, it's the bold, uppercase, extra-large font "LOOK INTO MY EYES" link in YOUR signature that I took the lead from. But as I said, I'll have another look at the rules.
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