Most people here are trying to lose weight using advice and support from others, but very few here are professionals. This is an attempt to bring in the professionals. THINGS COULD GET NASTY!
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I really can't add or offer much in the way of real science to this discussion, being a client (freak client) of Alan's...most of what I know & preach came from his mouth anyways.
Glad to see you here, BSL
By the way, we all love and respect this "Freak of Nature"
I am very intimidated to post over there. I just got UD2 and Stubborn Body Fat, and I don't even want to register. I will probably lurk and read as much as I can for as long as I can.
You realize there's a 'nice' and a 'mean' forum, right?
He recently opened the 'nice' forum since his original wasn't great for business. It's very informational, yet it's harsh and not conducive to helping out some misinformed people who buy his products.
Being smart, he started another forum better suited to less informed customers. Mind you, being less informed than members of the 'mean' forum still puts most members of the 'nice' forum miles ahead of the average. The active members of the 'mean' forum are very experienced/intelligent.
I just confirmed, the nice forum is the one you listed above.
I highly suggest you copy and paste this forum to Lyle on his forum directly. You want direct answers from the guy who wrote the article, and he's easily accessible.
Ya know....it sounds like a good idea, but I'm hesitant. I'm not sure if you're old enough to remember, but SNL used to have a skit where one newscaster would turn to the other and say "Jane, you ignorant slut..." and then proceed to rip on her into submission.
My question is an honest question and I'm only asking because I'm truly curious....but based on Lyle's writing style, he seems a bit hostile and I'd fully expect a response along the lines containing phrases like "If you'd even think about it" and a few other implications that I'm some sort of peon who dares to question the master. I've got an appointment with Alan in a week or so, I'll just save my query for our lunch conversation.
In the end, my knowing how many calories I burn is just trivial....knowing the number doesn't change the facts.
When I started my long-haul mountain biking rides I would expend many more calories then I do today. My HR-monitor projects calories burned using my numbers and running it through an algorythm or sorts. The higher the heart-rate, the more calories you burn. What I've noticed is that I still maintain a cruising HR of about 155, but I'm turning higher gears and covering ground quicker...so my rides are shorter in time and thus calories. Part of this figures entirely into the concept that we become more efficient over time, but Lyle's article would more so write this off to increased fitness. Well, this makes sense: it should take a given amount of energy to move a set amount of weight a certain distance/altitude.
See...that's interesting. My old ride (14.4 miles) used to burn about 1,180 calories but today it burns about 790 calories. As mentioned above, I make the ride faster because I'm in better shape. Also, I've lost weight....but still, by Lyle's contention, the change in reported calories burned would just be accounted for by equipment inaccuracy. So he's likely say I'm still burning about the same calories as before, just that my improved fitness level alters the perceived measure made by the HR-monitor. Definitely interesting stuff....
You are moving less weight therefore it requires less energy. Think about BMR and the jumps it makes based on weight and daily caloric needs, you'll see that the direct linear equation exsists, I bet if you put your values for the same bike ride over the years (or progress you've made) you'll see a similar progression. A TI83 graphing calculator does lists very well, and can do a linear regression calculation. You should have a positive slope.
Likewise, I'd say from unhealthy to healthy you wll obviously gain performance increases and muscle memorization tends to lead to caloric burn reduction. Less than via eating (not reducing calories after weight loss to accommodate less body weight) but I do not think Lyle believes that is an absolute like your implying.
So, yes your body is getting more efficient and weight loss have both contributed to your dilemma. I say post to th general workout section of the nice forums personally. Its an excellent question and if he dismisses it, you always have Alan you can count on. Remember the nice forums are for business purposes, if it's well constructed, he might not pass up an opportunity to defend his writing.
And let's wait for Lyle to respond (or someone else, which is fine), but I think you made a great point. I am interested in the mechanics of it all really.
He responded and your answer was pretty much exactly what you had already covered yourself. He simply connected the dots like I had previously thought in my posts above.
I think you get it, you just need to realize you do
It sounds as if your body has got used to the amount of calories in and exercise out. You will need to change up your routine a bit to get your body losing weight again.
Try changing your exercises, do you like dancing or take up an activity such as Tai Chi, or swimming, something you will enjoy doing.
Also reduce the number of calories you are eating as the weight loss comes down.
Remember when you were heavier your body need x amount of calories to function, now that you have lost a considerable amount of weight, you also need to reduce your calorie intake. Exercising in the morning does help to kick start the metabolism, so if you can go out for a 30 minute walk then, this should help.
Drinking green tea also helps speed up the metabolism. Drink green tea instead of fizzy drinks or juices. It can be drunk hot or cold. I put a little bit of cranberry juice in my green tea so that it has a different 'flavour' that I enjoy. Find the flavour you enjoy and drink lots...
AM cardio is not proven to be more or less effective than PM cardio. If you have research to back up most of your statements, than I suggest you not bring them into this thread.
Uhh I havn't read most of what happened in this topic since I last posted and there are so many different messages can someone summarize what I should do?
Linear Mode
