I saw somewhere back there - you are only allowed cheese 3 times a week?!?! Can someone confirm this please. My progam says:

Cheese maximum once a day (feta only once a week).

It doesn't limit it for a week however...



Goal: double digits!!

Hi Dreamer

It does say on my plan cheese maximum once a day.
FETA max once a week..........and then goes on to say TRY and limit cheese to three times a week.

Sam

Thanks Nan68

Mine doesn't say 'try' anywhere! I reckon it should be a solid yay or nay.
This doesn't seem like a program with grey areas... should or shouldn't I have cheese for my lunch 7 days a week... perhaps I should do my own science project on this one!

This program is based on science. Was the science wrong 3 years ago when I was allowed brussel sprouts? If Dr Cohen is prescribing us our food as our medicine, why does he allow diet drinks? These above anything are really bad for you. Water should be the only liquid on this diet (I know that sounds really boring!). Maybe he doesn't want to be a food nazi, but in the end it is our best intentions he should be looking out for.

There should be an online resource for people on the program. Where the updated information is readily available. A universal guide to what is allowed, what has been removed or what has been added (I wish!).

Anyways! Welcome to all the newbies... goodluck!

To everyone else - you are all fantastic and inspiring people. I can't wait to see all of you finish!



Goal: double digits ASAP!!

Hi Dreamer, Do you go to the clinic in Booragoon? That is where I go and the cheese thing is definately in my program. You will find it in section 3.1 Protein in the Protein Chart where it lists the groups of proteins you can have together . the first column of the chart is titled Food Category the 2nd column is titled Allowed Foods and the 3rd is titled Notes/Directions, You will find it under the Notes cloumn in the cheese section.

Or are you going off an old plan? Are you not on a new program with the blood work?

By the way I still have brussel sprouts on my plan too and my consultant didn't say anything at any time that I have to stop having them.

MellyP: I'm going off my old program which is about 2 years old - travel and other things had a major interruption in my first try (my clinic was Wembley and that's gone). I can't really afford to get a new program. I lost 34kg easy first time around, I figure I'll do it again and cross the refeed path when I get there.

I don't even have a progam numbered like yours! I just flicked through mine again and no where says limiting cheese! Oh well.

Was considering calling Booragoon to see what options I have, but I'm guessing they won't want to know me unless I part with some cash

Asy or LF pointed out no brussel sprouts anymore - they are in another state - but surely the programs shouldn't vary like that!?

Hi Windy blue,

this is what I do for my breakfast.

I get morazella cheese (light) and some vegetables consisting of mushrooms, green pepper, and celery or even onions. For mushrooms, get white button or portabello.

I will marinate the veges with some herbs such as basil, dill weed, black pepper and then sprinkle the cheese on top. And I go bake it in the oven till the cheese is melted and slightly brown. And I go tuck into this delicious dish!

2nd dish (for lunch or dinner):

Sauteed mushrooms (portabello or white mushrooms)

Chop some garlic.

Pour little bit of olive oil and fry your garlic. Put in your mushrooms and while your mushrooms are going to get cooked, sprinkle your herbs and black pepper.

In addition, you could cook your chicken with the mushrooms too! But cook your chicken first before the mushrooms.

These are my 2 favourite dishes so far... when there are more, I will share with you.

You could get asparagus with your egg? I usually fry my egg with onions and mushrooms. It tastes good too!

Give yogurt another try. The next recipe I tried was getting marigold non-fat no sguar plain yogurt. Don't get the nestle brand... it's horrid. The next best to marigold is brownes which I feel tastes the best but it's more expensive.

You could cut mango and blend it together with your yogurt. Put some sweetener to make it sweeter. Would suggest getting the aust mango. When you do so, you will have mango milkshake and it tastes so good!

Try making your stomach accustomed to eating yogurt. When I first ate it, I vomitted a few times because I was not used to it but now, I lurve eating yogurt. =)

[QUOTE=dreamer;179687] I'm going off my old program which is about 2 years old -

Was considering calling Booragoon to see what options I have, but I'm guessing they won't want to know me unless I part with some cash
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Hi Dreamer

I am sure if your motor car needed new tyres or brakes you would come up with the cash.

Why are you going to do something as important as this program using information which was designed for a different person - you, two years ago.

Regarding contacting Booragoon, frankly I think you do Rosemary a disservice to say that. You make them sound like greedy, graspy people when all they are doing is earning what is probably a rather meagre living managing quite complex situations.

After all, a once off fee of $680, part of which would be paid over to Dr Cohen for his work, and the rest has to pay the rent, the phones, the admin, the tax etc etc and the consultant is there to provide expert knowledge and support for six or nine months - would you do all that for 25cents per hour?

So before you start back on an old program, ask yourself how come you lost 34 kilos before and have put it all back on? As you can see, the program is evolving - the brussels sprouts, for example, are a recent modification - and so have you.

I would be very concerned if, in two years, I had put back on the 25 kilos I so assiduously shed. I would very seriously suggest you make an appointment and go and see Rosemary to discuss this and also your GP.

If you put the weight back on because you just stopped the program without doing the refeed, and now you are saying you will 'borrow' someone else's refeed - then really, dreamer, why are you bothering?

You may as well save your efforts and just stay as your are, 'cos you'll just be just as obese again in two years anyway!


You know, you get what you pay for. We have all paid for our programs, and it rather prickles me that you - or anyone else, for that matter - can 'save' yourself some money and just use our information and pick our brains for free. We had to go and earn the money to pay for this and as a result we take the program seriously and have got maximum benefit from it. Perhaps you didn't value it, didn't value yourself two years ago and maybe you don't value yourself any more now?? And also, you don't value us because you think we are 'free', too, and that you can 'bludge' off us.

Remember, I don't know you, I will probably never meet you, so as a stranger I can be your best friend and say a few plain truths here tonight.

Think about it. Be honest and honourable and pay your own way. If you don't value yourself, no one else will.

Cheers

Kristine

I have to agree with Chelsea, Dreamer ...... you kind of bash the diet and the consultants but want to go back on it. How come you have put all the weight back on?

As I understand it the program is developed on an individual basis designed specifically for you based on the results of your blood work, the rational as to why some people can eat certain foods and others can't is between each person and their consultant, I for one am strictly following the programme and if I have doubts will take the advice of my consultant and no one else, I love the forum however do not depend on any advice around the type of food I can and can't eat, we are all learning and I do not believe I am experienced enough to offer any, take advice offerred with a grain of salt, everyone is well meaning, however remember it is an individual based programme. I use the forum for friendly unbaised support, I love veiwing everyones before and after photos and look forward to the day that I am confident enough to post my own. Hopefully won't be to long now

Dreamer,
It's not too much of a strain to the hip pocket if you go on the payment plan. I pay about $32 a fortnight! Well worth it! Think of how much money you would spend on the wrong foods in the past, Fast foods, Takeway Dinners, Chocolate, icecream even Bread and milk! Think of all the money you are saving now by not eating those foods anymore and put some of that money into fixing you forever, so that you NEVER have to do this program again! If you could find money before for all the wrong foods then I'm sure you can find it again for Cohen's.
We all just want you to be at your best forever and not to risk this happening to you again.

Or you could spend $100 on Precision Nutrition and get the John Berardi - Gourmet Nutrition cookbook. This little package will give you all the info you need to get started.

Kirby,

Don't give up! If your family laugh's at you now...it's their fault....but the best you can do is join up, loose the weight...and laugh back. Don't think you have no support...you have us all! We are here to support one another! I went to the info session yesterday and had my blood test today...and am on my way to success once I start the programme.

If you loose the weight, gain life....no one will ever laugh at you....as a matter of fact, you'll have the last laugh.

Join up....stick to it...and loose the weight. We're all here for you.

CARPE DIEM - Woolworths (i think its called safeway if your over east) are the chain stores.
the special is for 2 x 18pack variety of coca cola varieties for $16 (equates to 50 cents a can)
so naturally i picked up a pack of caffeine free DC and Sprite Zero YAY now im set for a month a a bit

Well everyone im off to get my hair done today its a beautiful sunny day here in perth and im going to walk into town and enjoy the lovely sights and sounds that is fremantle

Happy losing xxxxx

Chelsea: you are right in so many ways. But without knowing my situation, you are too harsh in your words. Just because you've finished this program doesn't mean you can sit on your high horse and point the finger.

I've been burnt by the original clinic I joined. They were about the money - I didn't get any support at all and my questions fell on deaf ears. However I stuck to it while I could. I'm not trying to sound cheap, nor am I doing a 'disservice' to Rosemary - but if my clinic closed down, why was I not given the option to join a clinic that was open?

I've just bought my first home. My pay goes straight into my mortgage, so I'm sorry I can't spare the cash for a new program right now (I also have other debts - financials are seriosuly tight). Being on the program actually helps me with my money as I don't spend much on food period. I guess until I'm on a current program you aren't going to take me seriously, or think I should contribute to this forum?

I didn't put back on allthe weight I originally lost (just a chunk of it over a year I was off the program).

Even if I had a new program, why are some people allowed brussel sprouts and other aren't? Our vegie lists should all be the same.

No where did I say I was going to borrow someone's refeed. I did say I would cross that path when I would get to it. I've been thinking of getting a new program when I'm 20kg from my goal weight.
My old program is still working - I'm losing at the same rate since the beginning - so I'm sorry I can't justify (or afford) the money right now to get a new program. I guess if I continue until I reach 20kg from goal, then I'm just on some diet until I get a new program to take me to GW.

"You may as well save your efforts and just stay as your are, 'cos you'll just be just as obese again in two years anyway!"
And as for the comment above...was that really necessary? Doesn't sound like your usual supportive self. Nor does the rest of that post from that point.

I've obviously hit a nerve with you - but as you say, we are strangers, so because of that I'm happy to ignore the rest of that post as it's far from the truth.

MellyP: thanks for the tip. I didn't know there was a payment plan. But right now I need my $32 a month for bills. I reckon in 3 months I can afford it, but until then, I have no other choice but to stick with my old program.

kiwi:good way to be. It is for the individual, however recipes on the site tend to make me think we are all eating the same vegies: not the same proteins (as I don't eat red meat).

Stargazer: I'm not bashing - but my consultant was a dud unfortunately. Once bitten... right?

It's a little sad when you start questioning things, you are instantly jumped on. I know this program works - I'm not questioning it. So please don't get your knickers in a twist if you don't like what is posted.



Goal: double digits!!

hahaha i bet your all sick of me now but lately ive been posting more and more on this forum and what im about to tell you guys will hopefully motivate the newbies even further in their quest for the shrinking waistline..

So as you all know today i went to the hairdressers to get my hair done - as i havent been in there for 7-8 weeks all the girls immediately noticed how i had lost weight..well this was a great start to the day ...Ive retouched my blonde regrowth and purple splices in my hair and even decided to add some splices of dark brown and cut my fringe (i was feeling that damn good about myself hehe)..so after walking out of the hairdressers floating on air i had to go to target to grab some cheapo pants/jeans for work as my other ones were getting a bit lose and were starting to look like a potato sack.

I started feeling a bit of anxiety as i absolutely HATE trying on new clothes
the last time i tried on stretch denim jeans was last year when i was a size 18..and even THEN they were a bit on the 'tight fitting' side..AND THEY WERE STRETCH!

soooo anyway i walked over to the 'options plus' side and started to pick out some stretch denim size 16 crop pants...went into the fitting room...tried them on...and hold on..

theyre a bit lose...

if i walk in these for a day theyll be falling of my ar$e for the rest of the time...

OMGSH im a size 14?????????????????????????????????

so i hesitantly walked over to the 'girls' side and picked out a few '14' stretch denim crop jeans...all along thinking...'no way could these fit over my behind no way!'..

and guess what...


im sitting at the computer in a size 14 stretch denim skinny capri jeans.
I was so chuffed i bought a black pair and a jeans pair (mind you they were reduced from 39.99 to 13.81 WHO COULD RESIST THAT).

HAPPY LOSING EVERYONE!!! COS GOD KNOWS IM ECSTATIC!!