Nice post, green for you.

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How exciting!

I was sittin' here wonderin' how the heck I got all those bars bc hardly anyone visits my diary..

I just mostly chat with myself! *snorts* TeeHee..

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RE: post..

Sometimes the truth hurts us, but we can't get anywhere without bein' honest with ourselves..

I've learned that the very hard way..

When I mess up, the world doesn't come to an end. I can start fresh the next day..

If I have that pity party/binge..After I recover I write out what I was feeling to cause me to do it and how I can stop it next time.

I love this quote from my favorite movie series ever:

"Everyday is fresh with no mistakes in it yet."

-Anne of Green Gables

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some really interesting points here thanks! and hello from an newbie here not a newbie in the finess industry!

Glad to have ya here. You say you aren't a 'newbie' in the fitness industry.... what is it that you do?

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hi steve,
i've learnd so much from ur post...
i have a question:does the body after a while get used to the low calories diet and stop loosing weight?is it true that to get the body to loose weight again we have to either have a break or lower our incalories intake?
thank you.

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Hey AYA, glad you took something from the thread.

Anytime you invoke a caloric deficit, your body is going to adapt by slowing down.

Let's look at 2 scenarios.

1. We have a woman with a lot of weight to lose. She starts by figuring out her maintenance intake and creates a deficit based on this number via controlled eating and exercise. Say she creates a 3500 calorie deficit each week via food and another 3500 via exericise... and she's losing a couple of lbs each week.

As her weight falls, her metabolism downregulates not only due to the physiological/biological adaptations associated with any diet.... but also b/c the woman is getting smaller. Caloric expenditure has a lot to do with size.

As she continues, her weight loss will begin to slow b/c what was once a pretty moderate caloric deficit is now becoming conservative as her weight 'catches up' with her metabolism.... follow me?

In this scenario, the woman could keep cutting calories and ride the weight loss down to a normal weight. The idea is to be smart with your deficits. If she starts out by immediately jumping on the 'starvation diet' train..... it's highly likely that she'll plateau before it's necessary and be left with no room to cut calories again since she started so low.

2. We have a woman who is battling her last 5 lbs. She's tiny. Due to her size, she doesn't have the luxury of eating as many calories as the above woman. Because a lot of the physiological adaptations that occur while dieting are associated to our fat stores.... the less fat you have, the more volatile your metabolism becomes the smaller you become. That said, when you are battling the last few lbs.... things aren't as simple as just cutting calories. This is where cyclical diets come into play where you manipulate your caloric intake throughout the cycle, cycle being whatever you plan.

Wow, this seems wordy. I'm half asleep at the moment and probably said way to much.......

Short answer, yea..... sometimes you have to cut calories to keep losing weight and other times you have to raise them. Or sometimes you have to just keep them constant and remain consistent.

As always, it depends.

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thank you for making it clear...
i'm on 1200calories diet more or less...i'm doing exercices as well.in your opinion if it ever happpens to me shall i lower the cal ,go for a break ,or intensify the exercices?

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It depends on your current weight really.

But even without knowing that..... I wouldn't go below 1200. Why did you pick 1200?

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see my current weight is 88kg...height 1.70m.after my second child i went to a dietition she gave a plan :1200calories diet +exercice(4times a week) but i do it everyday...

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Your dietitian should be punched, lol

When did you start this?

How has it worked so far?

How is your hunger?

Are you happy?

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you think so?maybe in my next appointement...

My initial weight was 92kg i started 17 days ago,i think i'm less than 88kg now.i didnt weigh my self since 3days,my scale is not working so i'm not sure...
about hunger,i'm doing well i think i'm getting used to this diet.sometimes i 'm tempted but i hold on if i like something i taste it but i don't go beyond that. see my diet goes like this:

breakfast:cereals+milk(nonfat).coffee
lunch:low fat meat grilled+salad+sometimes soup.+toast
dinner:either sandwichwith cheese or yogurt+a fruit
snacks:rice cakes+apples sometimes cheese sandwich
i drink lot of water,i mixed it with apple vinegar.

i do exercices everyday(jogging more than walking for 45min)

i'm very happy that i'm loosing weight,but i'm worried, i'm wondering if its the right way.i dont want to start all over...
thank you for your concern.

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Good stuff Steve! I have been with myself everyday of my life, and I know what I have done works. Check out my blog(see signiture). I had fun figuring this stuff out. Calories are it. I think most people believe calories are something locked in sugar or something. They are units of energy. After you eat it, you either store it or burn it. Just find a way to get rid of the darn things. Eat less, run more, a little of both. If you burn more than you take in, you will lose weight.

Okay, we don't need another rant. Thanks for that exchange.

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Well you'll never have to start over per se, as long as you remain consistently proactive. The problem with such a low caloric intake is, it will probably catch up with you one way or another.

Some possible ways it could catch up with ya:

**I'd say you are 'dieting hard' right now relative to your current stats. You could just as easily eat more and lose weight. The harder you diet, the faster the physiological adaptations associated with dieting tend to 'kick in.' Among these adaptations is metabolic slowdown and decreased satiety.

**A steeper caloric deficit tends to be tougher on the person, psychologically speaking. The more *strictness* associated with something, the more resistance encountered, generally speaking in my experience. You might be going strong now, but what happens a couple of months down the road? The hunger pangs start to kick in, you're really sick of dieting b/c of it's deprevity..... these things coupled with the above set the atmosphere with a very nice (or not so nice) rebound in your weight. Welcome to the world of yo-yo dieting.

Follow me?

Now of course, these are just my opinions mixed with the facts. My play on the facts if you will. Your dietitian isn't 'wrong.' It's just not how I would go about things.

Take 9/10 people in my experience and put them on a strict diet, calorically speaking, and your success rate wouldn't be all that great compared with another 10 people placed on a more *sane* diet.

Oh, and did your dietitian select the foods you are eating currently?

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Yup, it's all about calories.

But you can't just "do away" with them altogether.

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Yeah, I think thats called "Time of Death".

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