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February 21st, 2008, 06:29 AM
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You do reps over a 10 second interval. They are to be done smoothly. When you have done the rep smoothly, and in less time than 10 seconds frame, the weight gets increased.
| OOH I KNow what book he's reading!!!
I'd seriously find a new trainer | 
February 21st, 2008, 06:29 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Tyvm for that article Mal! I totally agree with you in that, I have no where else to go being on 1200. Again, I am going to talk with him and before I mention increasing my calories, I want to hear his rationale of the 1200.
I put in my weight and I chose the "hardly ever" just to be safe. While I know my activity is probably more than that, I'd rather be safe. It gave me 1968.
Thank you Mal, Cita, and Steve! I will report back and let you know what I find out today | 
February 21st, 2008, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by maleficent OOH I KNow what book he's reading!!!
I'd seriously find a new trainer  |
Ohhhhh no  DH will kill me if he hears this! It wasn't cheap =\
Can you please share with me why? | 
February 21st, 2008, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ohdaisy Actually wait... Steve, he did tell me we are changing my lifestyle. | Saying you are doing something and actually doing something are very different things, no?
At 1200 calories, you are 7.xxx calories per pound of body weight. In all actuality, that isn't too bad.
However, are you hungry on this plan?
Also, considering the fact that you don't have too terribly much weight to lose, I'd say eating as much as possible while still allowing consistent, appreciable weight loss each week is the goal. 1200, in my mind, in combination with exercise, is lower than this amount.
Reason this is important is, a) you are female and females have the proclivity to lose muscle easily while dieting and b) you're goal should be to look and feel good, not just lose weight. By eating below the threshold I mentioned above, you aren't doing your body justice. Quote: |
Eating smaller portions, spread out in 4 sittings. He also tries to be realistic. He believes that most ppl try to make diets be perfect, leading to failure (because no one is perfect), he "says" he is there to help make the 2 fit together realistically.
| By being overly strict with caloric intake, I'd say this is the biggest hurdle of them all that trips up most people. So I'm not so sure I agree with your trainer here.
With those guidelines, a trainer can recommend eating 400 calories, but if he's making these small portions and spreading them out, he's being realistic. Quote: |
Actually, in reading posts you have written, he reminds me of you. You both have said many of the same things.
| Hmmm....
Scratch what I said above then. I like him.
Haha.... Quote:
Here is what the training is.... Strength training twice a week. Lasting about 20 minutes a session. The weights start off low. You do reps over a 10 second interval. They are to be done smoothly. When you have done the rep smoothly, and in less time than 10 seconds frame, the weight gets increased.
| So you do as many reps as possible within the 10 seconds? | 
February 21st, 2008, 06:56 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Steve, yes, it is 2 different things... I am determined I am making a new lifestyle for myself. With or without him. I am not getting any younger and being more healthy and aware is important to me. As for hunger, I am not starving. I do well during the day but when I come home I am hungry. That is where I am eating the whole rest of my 600 calories for dinner (around 6pm). I am then ok for the rest of the night.
Also, no, it isnt as many as possible in 10 seconds. It is one per 10 second. 5 secs up, 5 secs down. If you are doing them faster than the allotted time (not sure how fast this is but) the weight gets increased. He wants ya to be able to do them smoothly, as to not tear or injure yourself.
I do feel he is a good guy. Know how you get that vibe from someone? Like you can tell they are a good person? Well, yeah. While at the same time I do realize he is making money. Now I am nervous about my gut feeling, lol.
Ok, one more thing about the 1200 calories, sort of... After I had my second son I held on to some weight for about a year. I did notice that it was after I began eating more (not trying too, I just did) that I had started losing the weight. I definitely see what Cita is saying. Just this time, I am eating more and gaining so I dont think this theory will apply to me at the moment.
Ok, I am off to read the 1200 calorie thread, run errands and then the trainer. Thank you guys for reading and helping me. I will report back. | 
February 21st, 2008, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ohdaisy Also, no, it isnt as many as possible in 10 seconds. It is one per 10 second. 5 secs up, 5 secs down. If you are doing them faster than the allotted time (not sure how fast this is but) the weight gets increased. He wants ya to be able to do them smoothly, as to not tear or injure yourself. | So each set consists of one long rep? Quote: |
I do feel he is a good guy. Know how you get that vibe from someone? Like you can tell they are a good person? Well, yeah. While at the same time I do realize he is making money. Now I am nervous about my gut feeling, lol.
| Most trainers are good, friendly people.'
Most trainers are incompetent too though. Quote: |
Ok, one more thing about the 1200 calories, sort of... After I had my second son I held on to some weight for about a year. I did notice that it was after I began eating more (not trying too, I just did) that I had started losing the weight. I definitely see what Cita is saying. Just this time, I am eating more and gaining so I dont think this theory will apply to me at the moment.
| If you're gaining weight, you're eating too much.
But if you're losing weight, that doesn't necessarily mean you're eating just the right amount.
There's a middle ground that's important to find. | 
February 21st, 2008, 07:02 AM
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So each set consists of one long rep?.
| That sounds so similar to the book that I was reading -only that was 10 seconds up 10 seconds down... | 
February 21st, 2008, 01:26 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Ok, so I went in today and the owner was not there. He is who I work with in regards to my diet. I asked the trainer who was there about it and his reply was for me to talk with Aaron on Thursday but that no, they wouldnt keep me on a 1200 diet for "that long" and he said maybe a month. So who knows. Sorta fustrating as I do want to be doing the right thing for myself.
On a good note, my work-out was great and I am down 2 pounds. | 
February 21st, 2008, 01:47 PM
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Rep Power: 45 | | Slow lifting is only one method of lifting, and based on some of the studies I read about in this magazine, lifting sort of fast (but still with good form of course) where you sort of pump up quickly gets you further faster. There's no one perfect way, for the number of calories one consumes either. But I would think if you could still lose while eating more, then that may be preferable as we all tend to like to eat. I didn't know you were gaining though. How many calories were you eating to gain? I honestly would work that out first, otherwise you have no idea what your maintenance level is and if its an abnormally low maintenance level, then I'd want to figure out what's wrong with my metabolism to cause weight gain on a low amount of calories (if this was the case). | 
February 21st, 2008, 03:41 PM
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Rep Power: 182 | | Yea, I'm not a fan of lifting slowly, especially with your goals in mind. You want to generate a lot of force... give your body a reason to hold on to the muscle it has while dieting. |  | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
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