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I'm not a medical doctor with weight loss experience Post # 1 ( permalink)

June 24th, 2008, 07:31 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | I'm not a medical doctor with weight loss experience Hello everybody,
I founded a health / nutrition company about 4 years ago because of my own personal experiences. I won't say more about that because this isn't an ad or a pitch.
When I turned 30, my waist size was about a 34... I couldn't snap the button on my pants anymore. I was bummed. I was doing all the right things...so I thought.
Um. No. Not so much.
One day, I had heard Tony Robbins talking about the impact of too much acid in your body. Not stomach acid, but acids that build up in your fluids and tissues, etc. The message was this... if you're overweight, you're also acidic. And if you can balance your internal environment, then you will see weight normalization.
I understood what he was talking about because I had a clothing company at the time...and we needed to monitor pH when dying fabric. If the pH was off, we got the wrong color.
pH is a catalyst in every chemical reaction. Well...your body has trillions of chemical reactions going on every minute. So... it all made sense.
I simply changed the kinds of foods I was eating. More alkaline foods, less acidifying foods.
That's it.
I probably consumed more calories over the following 2 months than I had prior... but I lost about 25 pounds. Now...I could hide 25 lbs pretty easily - I'm kind of stocky.
This was no miracle, it was basic chemistry.
10 years later, I'm still at the same weight. I've also witnessed a lot of people finally win the weight battle over the years.
I encourage ya'll to do a little research on the connection between acidity and weight.
I'm not a doctor... I'm just a regular guy. I'm the un pHd. But you don't need a PhD to understand pH in your body.
I'm actually disgusted with conventional health because since 1980, the number of overweight people has more than doubled. Something's obviously VERY wrong.
The sad truth is that "they" aren't looking out for us. We have to look out for ourselves and each other. So, keep searching and learning and researching. There are some nuggets of truth out there.
Good luck to you all
God Bless,
David |
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June 24th, 2008, 07:39 AM
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Rep Power: 18 | | Altering the cell environment of the human body to create a less-acidic,environment is virtually impossible.
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I'm not a medical doctor with weight loss experience Post # 3 ( permalink)

June 24th, 2008, 07:54 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Well... your body is designed to be alkaline. Your fluids (70% of your body) are alkaline... including your blood, intracellular and extracellular fluids. But...
Your body is acidic by function. The basic process of metabolism creates acids. When you can't buffer the acids that are created, then they can build up and lead to problems.
Having said that, you can indeed alter the pH environment in your body. pH is not only regulated by respiration it is also regulated by your buffering systems (minerals, etc.)
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I'm not a medical doctor with weight loss experience Post # 5 ( permalink)

June 24th, 2008, 08:19 AM
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I'm not a medical doctor with weight loss experience Post # 6 ( permalink)

June 24th, 2008, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve | "The speaker seems credible (and is pretty handsome)"
Thats golden.
"Having said that, you can indeed alter the pH environment in your body. pH is not only regulated by respiration it is also regulated by your buffering systems (minerals, etc.)"
The American Institute for Cancer Research disagrees AICR: e.News: Cancer and Acid-Base Balance
As does Harvard Medical School Alkaline Diets and Cancer: Fact or Fiction?
This was floating around a couple of years ago on some Ulcerative Colitis sites I visit. I have yet to find a valid source to confirm it that wasnt trying to sell something.
An alkaline diet exclude or strictly limits things like
Fats and oils
Dairy
Beans and Legumes
Fruits |
I'm not a medical doctor with weight loss experience Post # 7 ( permalink)

June 24th, 2008, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve | uh oh! Busted! |
I'm not a medical doctor with weight loss experience Post # 8 ( permalink)

June 24th, 2008, 09:13 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | Well... those articles didn't say much. To say that pH is not relevant to the body... then you have to say that it's not relevant to soil, or the environment (excess emissions or CO2 = acid... Greenhouse gases are turning oceans acidic - Telegraph ), or virtually all chemical reactions.
Merck: Introduction: Acid-Base Balance: Merck Manual Home Edition
Whether we're talking about osteoporosis, acid reflux, weight issues, etc...pH has an impact.
Let's take people that suffer from kidney stones as an example: Kidney stone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
About 2/3rds of the way down the page...
"Decreased protein diet
A high protein diet might be partially to blame. Protein from meat and other animal products is broken down into acids, including uric acid. The most available alkaline base to balance the acid from protein is calcium phosphate (hydroxyapatite) from the bones (buffering). The kidney filters the liberated calcium which may then form insoluble crystals (i.e., stones) in urine with available oxalate (partly from metabolic processes, partly from diet) or phosphate ions, depending on conditions. High protein intake is therefore associated with decreased bone density as well as stones. The acid load is associated with decreased urinary citrate excretion; citrate competes with oxalate for calcium and can thereby prevent stones."
And as for the AICR... what are they selling? Free chicken dinners for the drug lobbyists? Everybody has an agenda...correct?
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I'm not a medical doctor with weight loss experience Post # 9 ( permalink)

June 24th, 2008, 10:01 AM
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To say that pH is not relevant to the body... then you have to say that it's not relevant to soil, or the environment (excess emissions or CO2 = acid... Greenhouse gases are turning oceans acidic - Telegraph ), or virtually all chemical reactions.
| Not necessarily. The human body has very effective natural system for correcting it own ph levels. Quote: |
Whether we're talking about osteoporosis, acid reflux, weight issues, etc...pH has an impact.
| I never said it didn't have an impact. I said that based on what conventional medical sources have found in human studies diet can not influence anything but your urine pH levels and that diet has no impact on stomach acid or blood pH. Quote: |
Let's take people that suffer from kidney stones as an example:
| An example of what? Of course there will varying degrees of ph in the urine. That is your bodies natural mechanism for regulating it. Using foods to raise or lower your urinary ph has nothing to do with weight loss as I see. You may also notice that the wiki sited a "high protein" diet as a source. What most professionals suggest is a balanced diet so that really isnt applicable to what most are trying to accomplish here.
We can argue science all day. You said you aren't a phd and I am not either. If this diet is working for you then more power to you. My opinion is that if it is working it is because you are excluding several foods and food groups and there by lowering your overall caloric intake (and possibly lowering your overall health and nutrition). I think most people will be better off doing the boring old count calories, eat healthy, and exercise. My life is full enough without having to pee on expensive ph strips then alter my diet completely anytime I see a rise in acid or alkaline. To me this is right along with "cleansing" diets. Why completely alter your life and diet to force your body to do something that it does a perfectly good job of already. |
I'm not a medical doctor with weight loss experience Post # 10 ( permalink)

June 24th, 2008, 12:48 PM
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Rep Power: 12 | | I like this thread. Its rather funny.
pH, this, Blah, blah, Ph that. Blah, blah.....
Just friggggggggggggggggen do what it takes, and educate yourself in what "it takes"------------------->IS.
Alot of persons just struggle with this.
This IS: One's personal science of applying the basic and advanced basics of diet and fitness, and learning what it takes to do both, and then learning what one's personal motivational soup IS.
Most on this forum are NOT Doctors and Scientists, but rather simple and average human beings with personal aspirations. And, "simplicity" with these aspiring people (and, there are exceptions I realize this), is the KEY FEATURE to assisting the "average" person,
ROCK ON, everyone! You have the power within you!
Best regards,
Chillen
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