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Old December 16th, 2008, 08:10 AM
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Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Dec;88(6):1716S-21S.
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Straight talk about high-fructose corn syrup: what it is and what it ain't.

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From White Technical Research, Argenta, IL.

High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a fructose-glucose liquid sweetener alternative to sucrose (common table sugar) first introduced to the food and beverage industry in the 1970s. It is not meaningfully different in composition or metabolism from other fructose-glucose sweeteners like sucrose, honey, and fruit juice concentrates. HFCS was widely embraced by food formulators, and its use grew between the mid-1970s and mid-1990s, principally as a replacement for sucrose. This was primarily because of its sweetness comparable with that of sucrose, improved stability and functionality, and ease of use. Although HFCS use today is nearly equivalent to sucrose use in the United States, we live in a decidedly sucrose-sweetened world: >90% of the nutritive sweetener used worldwide is sucrose. Here I review the history, composition, availability, and characteristics of HFCS in a factual manner to clarify common misunderstandings that have been a source of confusion to health professionals and the general public alike. In particular, I evaluate the strength of the popular hypothesis that HFCS is uniquely responsible for obesity. Although examples of pure fructose causing metabolic upset at high concentrations abound, especially when fed as the sole carbohydrate source, there is no evidence that the common fructose-glucose sweeteners do the same. Thus, studies using extreme carbohydrate diets may be useful for probing biochemical pathways, but they have no relevance to the human diet or to current consumption. I conclude that the HFCS-obesity hypothesis is supported neither in the United States nor worldwide.

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I find it very interesting. I'm not surprised that HFCS is basically calorie for calorie the same as other sugar. The thing that I have noticed is that HFCS does not give you the same full feeling like other sugars. I've made soda using sugar or honey and you just can not drink all that much. You feel full very soon. Soda with HFCS you can drink that all day long. I've always thought that was the biggest concern about it.
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almost a year ago - the center for science in the public interest did an about face on HFCS

I still have made the choice to avoid it as much as possible.. that any anyhing with ingredients i cant find elsewherei n the grocery store. I've gotten so used to not tastint it -that anything that has it -is overly sweet...
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Think you could send it my way? I have been curious about hfcs since the ads on tv came out. I asked my nutrition professor about it, but she danced around my question and then moved on.
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A professor dancing?

That's shocking!



Shoot me a PM with your email addy and I'll send it on over.
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Ha she is quite good at it. I don't think she has answered a single question all semester without throwing in some fancy feet work.!
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From my experience that's quite common.
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yea.. i've always believed that sugar is sugar.. so i try to avoid all of it.. except for fruit but i limit my fruit intake to 1 piece a day at breakfast. Even though i think fructose has basically the same effect on your body as table sugar.. when consuming a piece of fruit you get major nutrients unlike table sugar.. so thats what i think ppl mean when they say fruit sugar is "healthier'' than table sugar.. its just the fruit itself thats healthier...right?
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I'd love to read the paper, Steve, so if you wouldn't mind forwarding it to me, I'd appreciate it

We don't have HFCS commercials up here in Canada. I think most people aren't even aware of what it is.
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yea.. i've always believed that sugar is sugar.. so i try to avoid all of it.. except for fruit but i limit my fruit intake to 1 piece a day at breakfast. Even though i think fructose has basically the same effect on your body as table sugar.. when consuming a piece of fruit you get major nutrients unlike table sugar.. so thats what i think ppl mean when they say fruit sugar is "healthier'' than table sugar.. its just the fruit itself thats healthier...right?
Keep in mind that HFCS is created in a lab -and not found in nature...
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I'd love to read the paper, Steve, so if you wouldn't mind forwarding it to me, I'd appreciate it

We don't have HFCS commercials up here in Canada. I think most people aren't even aware of what it is.
PM me your email addy.
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yea.. i've always believed that sugar is sugar.. so i try to avoid all of it.. except for fruit but i limit my fruit intake to 1 piece a day at breakfast. Even though i think fructose has basically the same effect on your body as table sugar.. when consuming a piece of fruit you get major nutrients unlike table sugar.. so thats what i think ppl mean when they say fruit sugar is "healthier'' than table sugar.. its just the fruit itself thats healthier...right?
Gasp.

Avoid all sugar.
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well i have been eating poorly lately and am just getting back on track.. so my new nutritional plan strictly limits sugar.. and is focused on proteins such as chicken and whey.. and tons of veggies... anyway great post Steve!
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yea.. i've always believed that sugar is sugar.. so i try to avoid all of it.. except for fruit but i limit my fruit intake to 1 piece a day at breakfast. Even though i think fructose has basically the same effect on your body as table sugar.. when consuming a piece of fruit you get major nutrients unlike table sugar.. so thats what i think ppl mean when they say fruit sugar is "healthier'' than table sugar.. its just the fruit itself thats healthier...right?
Well, I suppose, you should quite consuming ALL carbohydrates from your selected food sources, if you really want to avoid all it.

And, it I think its good to know that if you eat (say an apple) and pair it with (say whole chicken breast), the resulting effects on blood sugar, is far different, than consuming the apple "alone".

Nothing wrong with "watching" your carbohydrate (sugar) sources, as this can assist in stabilizing blood sugar, potentially bring even energy, stabilize cravings (or reduce them, anyway). So in this "sense" the type you eat (and what you eat with it) can be important--to some.

But, I wouldn't recommend avoiding all of it--to the "average" dieter, lol, --depending on the goal placement, etc, etc.

If you are consuming carbohydrates, such as from Oatmeal, LGBR, and Grains, etc, then you are getting a form sugar--when processed by the body.

While its true Fructose can be handled differently within the body, it really goes without saying, that this type of sugar has its place in health, and within one fitness program. Such as Pre and Post workouts (where quick absorbing carbohydrates "can be" primed for importance). White Sugar is simply NOT the same as getting Fructose from say, an Apple or Grape Fruit (one is processed, and for the lack of argument the other isn't). Fruit or other types of carbohydrates are not the enemy (with the average--healthy person, and at the correct goal placement), and can be IMPORTANT part of a diet and fitness program.

Carbohydrates sometimes get beat up, and its not fair, at all.

Carbohydrates can be very powerful including them with the right person, and excluding them (or lowering them) for some in the right goal position. Which simply means, that they are powerful when manipulated--correctly.

However, I admit, I have extreme hatred for White Table Sugar, and simply have not had this in my diet for more than three years now. If I ate it right now, I am sure I'd be breathing a few minutes later (), it's just a personal choice, I made a long time ago.


Oh...Good post Steve on HFCS.


Best regards,


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