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January 15th, 2007, 06:33 PM
|  | DREAM IT, WANT IT, LIVE IT | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deos Fortioribus Adesse
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Rep Power: 358696 | | | Cheat days are definitely not necessary for everyone. And I am definitely not a fan of cheat DAYS, rather cheat meals are ok, as in 2-3 per week. Unless you are already very lean, the main reason they are important is for sanity's sake.
Once you are lean, cheats can become increasingly important for hormonal changes, such as leptin.
However, for those trying to lose weight, some get thrown off too much by cheats. So, my 2 cents, if you feel the need to cheat, do so in moderation a few times per week. Those few meals will not kill your progress unless you completely gorge yourself. If you don't feel the need to satisfy cravings, don't feel that cheating is necessary for your success. | 
January 17th, 2007, 05:36 AM
|  | Steve is my brother | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ramsey NJ
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Rep Power: 14324 | | | In the words of Dr. John Berardi, PhD. you can cheat 10% of the time. If you eat 5 meals per day, over 7 days that is 35 meals. You can have 3-4 cheat meals in that week.
The difference between 90% and 100% adherence to your diet is negligible~Berardi | 
January 17th, 2007, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CaseyAtMartin I don't really like the thought of "cheat days"...but sometimes I eat Ramen Noodles! They're completely overprocessed and full of salt and offer no nutrition, but they're just so GOOD. it's also less than 400 cals for a pack so I don't feel completely full or guilty afterwards. I am vegan so I don't eat pizza or cookies/cakes/pies so this is my "junk food." | I'm vegan and i do eat all those things  i will make a vegan cake or pizza or cupcakes or whatever for my family so they don't buy the crappy dairy ones from the store... then i end up eating most of it!
Maybe i should just let them eat unhealthy  | 
January 19th, 2007, 12:59 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | I don't like to call them CHEAT DAYS either but I love PIZZA The weight loss program I am on allows for a cheat meal once a week. I think it's a great thing becuase you might go way over your daily limit of calories/carbs/sugar/sodium/whatever but if the thought of that one meal (it's pizza for me! ) keeps you on the straight and narrow the rest of the week then it's OK! The only temptation is if your cheat meal turns into a cheat afternoon and then next time a whole cheat day(s). I am the type who can't eat just one cookie. If I eat one then I might as well have a dozen. So I have to be ultra firm with my cheat meal boundaries. When I am done with my pizza pig out I get up from the table and brush my teeth and that marks the end of the cheat meal for me.
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January 19th, 2007, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by WeightLossGuy The weight loss program I am on allows for a cheat meal once a week. I think it's a great thing becuase you might go way over your daily limit of calories/carbs/sugar/sodium/whatever but if the thought of that one meal (it's pizza for me! ) keeps you on the straight and narrow the rest of the week then it's OK! The only temptation is if your cheat meal turns into a cheat afternoon and then next time a whole cheat day(s). I am the type who can't eat just one cookie. If I eat one then I might as well have a dozen. So I have to be ultra firm with my cheat meal boundaries. When I am done with my pizza pig out I get up from the table and brush my teeth and that marks the end of the cheat meal for me. | Right. Like I said, it is very individual. Some people will get something from it, others will not. My point was, they are not necessary.
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January 19th, 2007, 03:15 PM
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Rep Power: 7 | | | I think a cheat meal can benefit the thyroid from becoming rather dormant from consuming the same amount of calories each day however I'd suggest to keep it at 1 meal per week. I actually ditched the "cheat" (Anything you want meal) and am now consuming clean re-feeds once every 2 weeks.
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January 19th, 2007, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ~LV~ I think a cheat meal can benefit the thyroid from becoming rather dormant from consuming the same amount of calories each day however I'd suggest to keep it at 1 meal per week. I actually ditched the "cheat" (Anything you want meal) and am now consuming clean re-feeds once every 2 weeks. | Refeeds are something entirely different than a cheat. And their importance as you become leaner is unbelievable. Majority of people here do not need refeeds IMO.
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January 19th, 2007, 07:54 PM
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Rep Power: 11400 | | Bahhh!
I don't even know what a refeed IS!
That being said, I don't believe in "cheating" I certainly don't believe in guilt.
I do know that if I am craving something, and all the carrot sticks or chicken in the world isn't going to satisfy it, then I eat it, count it in my calories for the day and move on.
Cheating implies I'm trying to be sneaky.
If I want a cookie, I'll eat it.
Generally, I choose not to 
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January 20th, 2007, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Majority of people here do not need refeeds IMO. | True indeed.
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January 22nd, 2007, 03:40 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | I have cheat days too
I eat a huge plat of pasta every week
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January 25th, 2007, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCdnBoy Hi All. how to cheat
Once a week, you can go a little crazy with your "diet". For example, each Saturday, you can have a huge pasta dinner with your favorite desert. | Whats so bad about a pasta dinner...
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January 25th, 2007, 04:39 AM
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Rep Power: 218383 | | | i think pasta is that whole refined carb thing - which isn't nutritionally all that good for you (but oh so darn tasty with pesto sauce and fresh grated parmesan cheese)
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January 25th, 2007, 04:50 AM
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Rep Power: 358696 | | I eat whole wheat pasta almost daily. 
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January 25th, 2007, 04:55 AM
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dont make me hit you, ya young whippersnapper... when you consume 4000 ish calories a day - whole wheat pasta is easy to fit in..  but at 200 calories ish for 1/2 cup - 1/2 cup isn't very satisfying  those calories - even if it is whole grain - add up  quickly
:  ff to whine more elsewhere :: 
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January 25th, 2007, 05:00 AM
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Rep Power: 358696 | | 4200 calories yesterday, and again today. Yummy. 
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