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August 23rd, 2007, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SweatPea I never said I was eating under 1000 cals. I said that if she didn't feel like eating - or felt full - why try to eat more?
I believe that 1000 cals is way too low too - and maybe it's a miscalculation? I think if you're full you should stop no matter what the calculation is.
I am by no means an expert, I was offering her advice as to why she would feel full - you said that she couldn't by any means be full on such little intake - which could be true for you (I've read parts of your journal that say you eat 4000 cals per day - there is no way the average person could do that unless they were working out quite a bit - or if they were hitting the weights pretty hard.) But for her, the answer isn't to tell her that she's not full, it's to help her figure out why she might feel full. | Ok.
Then have at it helping her. 
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August 23rd, 2007, 05:03 AM
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Sometimes people have to fight through the fullness.
Metabolism is not static. It's dynamic. It will adapt to more food.
And I'm not an "expert" either. But I still stand by my advice.
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August 24th, 2007, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bikinibound You should check out Sheryl's diary (MsGhettoBooty). She works out about 2-2.5hrs a day and eats an average of 2100 calories per day. Obviously, the more you work out, the more calories you're going to burn. So you need to increase your eating a bit to keep from going into starvation mode. And believe me, even if you are eating more calories, you will still lose weight. Sheryl has lost over 30lbs. So obviously, this works. And believe me, Steve knows what he's talking about. I would take his advice seriously. It's ok if you only eat 1000 calories sometimes, but doing it consistantly will bring your weight loss to a halt b/c your body will go into starvation mode and your metabolism will slow down. There is a very good sticky you should read in the Harsh Truth section. It the first sticky: 5 Ways to Gain Fat. Excellent. I printed it out and keep it close at hand. | Thanks for the advice.
I will look into and I will also check out Sheryl's diary.
Though there probably is no way that I would be able to workout 2-2.5 hours a day. I just don't have that kinda time or the desire to work out for that long. At least not yet. Mostly because of the old job and doing it for 2 1/2 years.
Now if I was doing my old job  that would be me "working out" for 8 hours because that is how labor intensive the job was. But that is no longer the scenario. So I will go with what I can do when I can do it.
Thanks
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August 24th, 2007, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bellaryna Thanks for the advice.
I will look into and I will also check out Sheryl's diary.
Though there probably is no way that I would be able to workout 2-2.5 hours a day. I just don't have that kinda time or the desire to work out for that long. At least not yet. Mostly because of the old job and doing it for 2 1/2 years.
Now if I was doing my old job  that would be me "working out" for 8 hours because that is how labor intensive the job was. But that is no longer the scenario. So I will go with what I can do when I can do it.
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Bellaryna | I'm not saying you have to work out 2-2.5hrs a day. I sure don't! What I was saying was that the more you exercise, the more you need to eat. I work out an average of 40-45min 6days a week. I eat about 1600-1700 calories per day. As Sheryl works out more than double what I do, she eats about 500-700 more calories per day than I do. but even if you're not exercising (which I don't recommend as it will make losing weight more difficult--not to mention your body NEEDS regular exercise), you should be eating 1200 calories per day at the very minimum.
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October 9th, 2007, 08:13 AM
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Rep Power: 76 | | I trust mayoclinic.com and they tell you that you should not fall below 1200 calories in a day if you're a woman, and not to fall below 1800 calories a day if you are a man. An average individual needs 1200 to keep just their basic organs going. If you don't have enough calories to keep those happy, well then you are straining your heart and your other very important organs to survive. This can lead to problems as you may have suspected.
Sweetpea may be on to something about the bulkiness of your food. Just incorporate more veggies and less meats etc. I have zero problem getting my 1500 cals in and I eat a variety of foods. 
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October 11th, 2007, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve IMO, 900 calories of anything shouldn't fill an above-average sized adult up to the point of not being able to eat more . | ever eat 900 calories of collard greens?  | 
October 11th, 2007, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ashy I trust mayoclinic.com and they tell you that you should not fall below 1200 calories in a day if you're a woman, and not to fall below 1800 calories a day if you are a man.  |
thats odd, because I'm a man and mayoclinic.com says that my daily caloric intake goal should be 1400 for weight loss ??? | 
November 1st, 2007, 11:19 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | calories I am beginning to believe that calorie counting is really not the way to go. I've counted calories for more than 20 years and my weight stayed pretty much the same whether I ate 800 calories or 2000 calories. I've never been really overweight, just about 15 to 20 pounds more than I'd like. Now I finally know that it's because what I eat and how often affects my metabolism.
The only thing that has finally helped my lose weight is "eating clean" -- I eat small meals every 2-3 hours, each meal has complex carbs, lean protein and healthy fats like almonds. And I eat no chemicals -- everything natural. I've lost 10 pounds over the last 2 months. I was going to lose only 5 more but now this is so easy I think I'll lose another 10. The only thing that bugs me is how many years I wasted, especially when I was a teenager and totally calorie obsessed. | 
November 1st, 2007, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by helgap01 I am beginning to believe that calorie counting is really not the way to go. I've counted calories for more than 20 years and my weight stayed pretty much the same whether I ate 800 calories or 2000 calories. I've never been really overweight, just about 15 to 20 pounds more than I'd like. Now I finally know that it's because what I eat and how often affects my metabolism.
The only thing that has finally helped my lose weight is "eating clean" -- I eat small meals every 2-3 hours, each meal has complex carbs, lean protein and healthy fats like almonds. And I eat no chemicals -- everything natural. I've lost 10 pounds over the last 2 months. I was going to lose only 5 more but now this is so easy I think I'll lose another 10. The only thing that bugs me is how many years I wasted, especially when I was a teenager and totally calorie obsessed. | Cool.
So your body acts differently than any other that's been examined by medicine and/or science.
You can eat whatever you want, as long as it's *clean*.
Lucky you.
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November 1st, 2007, 11:44 AM
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You can have a day or two where you eat 900 calories. It isn't going to ruin your metabolism. Sometimes just feeling under the weather can ruin your appetite. Sometimes you eat food that can make you feel stuffed without having brought in many calories (a good day of veggies comes to mind). If you generally stick within your calorie parameters you're going to be fine.
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November 1st, 2007, 02:39 PM
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Rep Power: 24011 | | | If your feeling full at 900 calories a day, you might be underestimating your calories. Do you have the correct portion sizes? | 
November 10th, 2007, 09:50 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | I'm not going to recommend anything along the lines of eat more, up, down, etc your calories b/c I dont know your situation & I'm not a nutritionist who can tell you these things. On the other hand, I have the same problem, and have begun incorporating calorie dense foods into my diet otherwise, after I workout I've only eaten about 400 calories p/day. You can try and add avacados to your salads (if you do salad), peanut butter, more fruit, cook food in olive oil (~120 cal p/tbsp), easy things like this. My biggest concern with all of these are that they seem to be high in fat or sugar, but I am still loosing  Good luck... I definitely feel you on this. I workout about two hours a day, and struggle to net about 700-850 calories a day. I eat about 1900 a day? I dont know.. I just know its difficult, So I'm starting to plan earlier in the day so at night I don't have to stay up late eating peanut butter
-also, you can try tracking your calories to see if you're really eating as little cals or as many as you think you're eating, I use thedailyplate.com some other likes fitday.com and I know there is another site but I'm not familiar with the name. | 
November 11th, 2007, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bellaryna I have a question maybe someone can answer it for me.
If I am not hungry do I still need to eat all those calories that it says I am suppose to have for the day?
Example: I should have 1590cals a day to lose weight. Yesterday after inputting everything that I would have for dinner while I was at work and calculating everything that I had all day it still said I needed 600 more calories. I wasn't hungry in fact felt quite stuffed. Any ideas?
Thanks for any input.
Bellaryna
PS: this has happened on 3 other occasions as well | I don't really know which kind of diet you are doing or if you are simply counting all the calories you are having a day. Nevertheless I would say that it is not necessary to eat all the 1590 calories which you should have. Especially if you are not hungry at all. But if you feel that you should have some more calories try to eat some fruit-then you get lots of vitamins as well and you don't feel so full afterwards! | 
November 18th, 2007, 01:05 PM
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Rep Power: 194 | | I just thought i'd add in that i eat 2100-2400 calories/day and i am losing weight, i exercise 60 minutes a day 5 times a week.
However i remember when i first started to lose weight. I'd cry because i ate 1400 calories/day and i thought that was way too much . I was pretty uninformed. I'd have days when i'd only eat 1100 calories and feel fairly full. But this soon changed (i think i only lasted a few weeks with such low numbers!). I felt much better once i increased my calories. I feel like now my body is a pretty good fat burning machine...when i am exercising at the gym i know i am burning alot of calories.
I am certainly not certified to give any advice but i would say to take care of your body..its the only one you have and ultimately you are responsible for it. Eating below what your body requies to function (and yes, this includes the 1300-1400 calories/day you say you eat) could result in health issues down the road and also most likely weight gain, once you go back to eating normally.
Its best to be losing weight on a plan tha you can sustain the rest of your life.
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December 11th, 2007, 11:11 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | Studies have shown that people that eat somewhat less that they're "supposed" to eat every day generally live longer. Those that eat more tend to live less. Also, studies of mice that were put on a day of fasting a week showed that those mice lived longer than the other mice that were not fasted.
If you're going to count calories and aren't up to the amount you need to eat every day then you should add more calories but make sure they're clean calories. No junk foods or processed stuff.
I personally don't count calories anymore...did it, knew the amount of calories in a whole bunch of foods, but realized that it's somewhat flawed.
The concept of counting calories is based on calculations of your Basal Metabolic Rate and activity factor. Simply input your age, weight, height, and you'll get your calories to eat! Vwallah!...nope. Genetics! That's like saying that every 5 foot lady that weighs 130 pounds and, even having the same body fat percentage, will need the same amount of calories a day and burn the same amount of calories doing the same types of exercises. Put those two people on the calorie counting and I can guarantee that both will have different results. |  | | |