Maleficent,

I am not trying to advertise on this! As a side note you have advertising for Lipozene and others, so how would you say that I can't advertise? Listen, I am not senior member or anything but I know of a really good way to lose weight, naturally and healthy. Losing weight costs money anyway you look at it, going to a gym, buying products, buying better food (organic or fruits and veggies, etc) All I'm doing is trying to help by passing on my knowledge, I am not spam or some guy trying to "add customers". I bet you I have seen more weightloss results in the past year than you have. I'm sorry my posting did not follow the rules, I will make a better effort next time, but I couldn't figure out how to message you directly or anyone for that matter. I can understand if you don't want my help, it is a common theme in the weightloss world, even though it is a scared front put on in anticipation of let down. I'm sorry if this message comes off bad, but i am just trying to help. I won't send anyone anything or try to get them to buy anything, I will tell them what works or has worked for a ton of people though. Also, I research extensivly many many products and just because they give you money doesn't mean you should endorse them, this is a community that needs help, not just pounds off there body but much more!

DaveGreenTea

You're an idiot.

no sense polluting B's diary with this nonsense...

Generally when a person comes into a community without introducing themselves or giving their background and instead - just tells us of their wonderful product they sell..

it's spam

i've l ost 200lbs in the past two years -so I'm not sure i want to take that bet - plus I can list at least a dozen other 100+ plus losers who've done so thru sensible diet and moderate exercise.. and not adding in products

It sounds like you know nothing about this site and the people who visit our forums on a regular basis for you to be so sure mal has seen less weight loss results than you. That is just silly given that many people here are more than successful, just doing it the good ole fashioned way of eating more and moving less. That often does the trick for people. Every once in a while we get these people blowing in here telling us "novices" how its done and its laughable since many of us know quite a lot about weight loss and health. Thank you very much.

and if you had really bothered to read the post that you responded to - you do realize you were suggesting supplements to a 16 year old child -I'm sure his parents woudl have been really pleased wiht that.

Adults can make up their own minds... a 16 year old needs to learn nutrition and exercise are the way to go... and not rely on supplements..

I am not an idiot. You did not see my first posting and response to it. I saw a member that was asking for help, I told him that I might be able to help. I got offended when I was told by maleficent that I was spam, so I replied to him by posting that because I am not familiar to the site and the rules. Just because I work in the health and wellness industry doesn't mean that I am trying to shmooz anyone. I was trying to help, not being an "idiot". Geez, I'm sorry. I guess I come off aggressive which makes people feel like I am being negative, but the truth is I do care and I am not spam, and no I don't really want to bet but I have seen more weightloss results, maybe not commonly 200 pounds but people day to day everyday grinding it out, starting with 10 and going for there goal. I am passoinate about what I do, so sorry again for jumping in like that.

DaveGreenTea

pssst - I'm not a him - i'm a her

and if you bothered to read around the forum -you'd realize that is exactly what people are doing... without supplements -and working on educating themselves about nutrition and fitness...

ooo popcorn time...no butter of course...

My idiot comment didn't stem from anything but the simple fact that you marched in here to save the day with a supplement.

I suggest you read the stickies.

You might learn a thing or two.

Working in the health and wellness industry means absolutely nothing this day in age. If you had any sense, you'd understand that.

Steve I have to say you and mal definitely have that lion protecting the cubs feel. The filter is appreciated.

While post of the people on this forum are adults -there are a handful that are not quite legal adults and well - I don't appreciate people trying to give them supplements without their parents permission (not to mention in htis very litigious society heaven knows what the parents would do )

I like having 'experts' on this forum -but they also need to prove what they know and there's entirely too much misinformation out there - filtering that out I consider a good thing...

Post count is 2 and he isnt selling a product?

Meh... for me it's more about maintaining the integrity of information, is all. Certainly I want people to have a fighter's chance and that doesn't happen most often with all the 'gurus' spouting off and looking to fatten their wallets by selling snake oil. But it's more a personal issue with me than a protection issue.

Shit, I'd feel bad promoting my site on here and I've been helping people for years here.

Some of these guys come in here and without ever introducing themselves or proving their efficacy as a knowledgeable expert, they cram their links down the throats of the members. Not to help. Sure they say that. But it's all monetarily driven.

Erm, no it doesn't, it only costs more if you want it to. If anything, you save money because you aren't buying all the bad food you used to.

And no one has to join a gym to exercise!