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May 6th, 2007, 07:17 AM
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Rep Power: 35 | | Need some consolation, Felici. You can cry on my shoulder, if I can cry on yours. Turns out I'm on a 25 day plateau, with an accumulated deficit of 9,500 calories. In the past, it took 12,000 deficit calories to bust it, so we can keep each other company until then.
In the meantime burn that incense and those chicken wings! | 
May 6th, 2007, 07:22 AM
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Rep Power: 15 | | Hi!
It doesn't sound like a plateau to me either as it's only been 1-2 weeks? You clearly still have your eyes focussed on the bigger picture which is great
Maybe your calories are TOO low? And your body is hanging onto them? Do you think it might be worth trying 1700 cals a day next week, AND upping your exercise a lot, to see if that helps. I'm not saying from my experience, but I've heard it might shake your metabolism up a bit and get it burning lots of fat again! | 
May 6th, 2007, 07:23 AM
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Rep Power: 15 | | PS, thanks for everything, you know what I mean!
I'm gonna go off and give you some rep for being so great | 
May 6th, 2007, 08:49 AM
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Rep Power: 45 | | Hey felici, I'm also on a plateau. I'm up to a 12,600 calorie deficit with no loss. What is your calorie deficit since your last loss?
I personally dont take the gains seriously so long as I've had a weekly calorie deficit or ate at maintenance. Generally there's always a deficit so I dont view any gain as a fat gain, but of course overall our numbers should be following a downward trend. So to me any gain is more like a plateau than a gain. I've been ranging between 140 and 143 for 6 weeks now despite my accumulating calorie deficit.
I find if you can keep in mind that our weight absolutely does fluctuate a bit, usually for no apparent reason, then you shouldn't have a problem with the number on the scale for that morning. Tracking in a spreadsheet helps so you see the downward trend and start to not worry about the daily movements. Of course when the downward trend stops, despite one's best efforts, its discouraging. Let's work through this plateau together! | 
May 6th, 2007, 09:17 AM
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Rep Power: 90 | | Quote:
Originally Posted by felici Thanks for the messages Cerella and Tom.  The scales are dodgy little beasts I know and maybe should just be left off playing in the wild...
Be that as it may I did some calculations anyway:
As far as I can tell my calories for last week were:
1395 + 1338 + 1295 + 1382 + 1549 + 1176 + 2080 = 10215
and extra exercise was:
430. + 440. + 442. + 404. + 376. + 290. + 0.000 = 2382
Per day the deficits were:
1140 + 1207 + 1252 + 1127 + 932. + 1219 + 25 = 6902 (or an average of 986/day)
I estimate my BMR at 2105 / day and my weekly deficit at 4519 - 2382 or a deficit of 985 cal / day or -5.6 calories per pound. Typical individual days are -7.15 / day at the most. | WOW girl I dont even understand all of that - after all this time of working on loosing weight and after being here all this time I still dont understand all the deficit stuff... | 
May 6th, 2007, 09:22 AM
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Rep Power: 13 | | Wow on the measurments! Hey thats inches adding up! Your scale may be crazy but it sounds like your shrinking! | 
May 6th, 2007, 09:41 AM
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Rep Power: 43 | | Quote:
Originally Posted by TomO Need some consolation, Felici. You can cry on my shoulder, if I can cry on yours. Turns out I'm on a 25 day plateau, with an accumulated deficit of 9,500 calories. In the past, it took 12,000 deficit calories to bust it, so we can keep each other company until then.
In the meantime burn that incense and those chicken wings! | You can cry on my shoulder any time.  Though I know you are already well experienced at dealing with your plateaus and keeping on losing what you're aiming at and more. It's good to know I have yours and other people's experience to look toward if (probably when) I need it.
I really don't know if I have anything to deal with just yet. I am kind of expecting a plateau some time but still hoping it might be closer to my goal weight. Quote:
Originally Posted by kezzypear Hi!
It doesn't sound like a plateau to me either as it's only been 1-2 weeks? You clearly still have your eyes focussed on the bigger picture which is great
Maybe your calories are TOO low? And your body is hanging onto them? Do you think it might be worth trying 1700 cals a day next week, AND upping your exercise a lot, to see if that helps. I'm not saying from my experience, but I've heard it might shake your metabolism up a bit and get it burning lots of fat again! | Quote:
Originally Posted by kezzypear PS, thanks for everything, you know what I mean!
I'm gonna go off and give you some rep for being so great  | Thanks kezzy. I am thinking it's a bit soon to tell what's happening. Quote:
Originally Posted by Blancita Hey felici, I'm also on a plateau. I'm up to a 12,600 calorie deficit with no loss. What is your calorie deficit since your last loss?
I personally dont take the gains seriously so long as I've had a weekly calorie deficit or ate at maintenance. Generally there's always a deficit so I dont view any gain as a fat gain, but of course overall our numbers should be following a downward trend. So to me any gain is more like a plateau than a gain. I've been ranging between 140 and 143 for 6 weeks now despite my accumulating calorie deficit.
I find if you can keep in mind that our weight absolutely does fluctuate a bit, usually for no apparent reason, then you shouldn't have a problem with the number on the scale for that morning. Tracking in a spreadsheet helps so you see the downward trend and start to not worry about the daily movements. Of course when the downward trend stops, despite one's best efforts, its discouraging. Let's work through this plateau together! | Hi Blancita. Nice to see you. I really just looked at this issue because I was being a bit twitchy and wondering if I'd started to be overly careless without noticing. My deficit since my last loss is only 6-7000. Mind you that was only a 0.1 kg loss. However prior to that my graph had a nice downward slope.  I agree that as long as we know we're eating right and getting in the exercise that's what really matters. I've checked that out and I'm feeling quite comfortable. Quote:
Originally Posted by cinderelly WOW girl I dont even understand all of that - after all this time of working on loosing weight and after being here all this time I still dont understand all the deficit stuff... | Basically I just used a rough guide to work out how many calories my body is probably using every day without extra exercise (BMR), added on extra calories for the deliberate exercises I did, then took off the calories I ate to work out the difference. Seeing as I ate less calories than I needed for each day the difference was a deficit. As I eat less calories than I use every day - I reckon I will lose weight. It just may not show up on the scales at a predictable time. Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeplessinsc Wow on the measurments! Hey thats inches adding up! Your scale may be crazy but it sounds like your shrinking!  | I definitely have shrunk!! I took the first measurements at 84.5 kg 9 1/2 weeks ago and now I am (at worst!) 79 kg and noticeably slimmer. | 
May 6th, 2007, 09:44 AM
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Rep Power: 43 | | Breakfast 9:00 2 weetbix (107 cal), 1/3 C diced peaches (~40 cals), 1C low fat soy milk (122cal). 1 slice wholemeal toast (70 cal) with minimal margarine (18 cal) and marmalade (12 cal) . Boiled egg (71 cal). 1/2 C tomato juice (25 cal). 2C coffee with 40 ml Hilo milk each (40 cal). Snack:11:30 1/2 large orange (40 cal). More food : 3:45 1 Salada cracker (54 cals). 26 almonds (122 cal). (Yes, I counted 26 I didn't think I was still counting until I finished the handful and realized I was up to 26. ) Dinner:6:35 2 bowls Asian food. About 1 C steamed rice, ~ 1/4 C fried egg noodles, 20 gm "Japanese" fish (shallow fried?), a few prawns, some chicken and seafood balls, pork (all stir fried but the pork was in a coconut curry sauce) drained all sauces - hopefully about 150 gm protein all up? Sundry stir fried veges.
Edit: Guessing 205 + 75 (?) + 40 (?) + 300 (?) +100 - I really don't know 700 cal? 4 dates. (80 cal) Exercise: Walk/jog. 35 (?) min. (200 cal) 3.2 kms / 2 milesLocal walk. I half jogged because I was short of time and half because I felt like it. I hope it doesn't make my knee hurt - if not ... well  it felt good at the time - I hope it's ok to do again.
12:45 30 minutes or so on body weight exercises. (200 cal) I increased the reps on 3.
Last edited by felici; May 7th, 2007 at 07:36 AM.
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May 6th, 2007, 10:23 AM
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Rep Power: 59 | | | good job on exercising. i wish i had that dedication | 
May 6th, 2007, 10:50 AM
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Rep Power: 28 | | | i'm runnign thru your diary to pick up on some inspiration hehe. thank you for being so motivated, it helps me a great deal.
hugs,
Lena | 
May 6th, 2007, 11:37 AM
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Rep Power: 19 | | Cool, you and Blancita have the exact same goal weight. How are you Felici? Your food and exercise looks good today 
How did you come up with a pretty name like Felici anyway? | 
May 6th, 2007, 06:08 PM
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Rep Power: 38 | | | You are most definitely shrinking. You can see it in your pictures. | 
May 7th, 2007, 07:32 AM
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Rep Power: 43 | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bmohearn good job on exercising. i wish i had that dedication | Thanks. I see others far beyond me to keep me feeling more can be done - and didn't start out with anything like the motivation I have now. It seems the longer you keep going with it the more motivated you get. Quote:
Originally Posted by lena410 i'm runnign thru your diary to pick up on some inspiration hehe. thank you for being so motivated, it helps me a great deal.
hugs,
Lena | If it helps you too that's a nice bonus.  It helps me when I feel like doing what I think I should do that's for sure. Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Skinny Cool, you and Blancita have the exact same goal weight. How are you Felici? Your food and exercise looks good today 
How did you come up with a pretty name like Felici anyway? | Thanks Skinny. Yours always looks good to me too. It's also reminded me to have another try at spacing my food out more.
Felici? Well that's kind of a long story to do with another site. I actually chose it to be a naughty alter ego, not really myself, and I meant it to be Feli, not felici (which I forgot), and it was short for Felicity, and because I'd never actually used it and had it in mind that it would be my nic next time and not the boring nic I used on impulse the first time...that's what I keyed in here when I arrived ... despite that on here I am not some alter ego, just me, and usually me trying to be good, not me trying to be naughty! Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon 2006 You are most definitely shrinking. You can see it in your pictures. | Thanks Cannon. Fitting into new sizes does it for you and me too doesn't it? | 
May 7th, 2007, 07:37 AM
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Rep Power: 43 | | Breakfast 9:00 2 weetbix (107 cal), 1/3 C diced peaches (~40 cals), 1C low fat soy milk (122cal). 1 slice wholemeal toast (70 cal) with minimal margarine (18 cal) and marmalade (12 cal) . Boiled egg (71 cal). 1/2 C tomato juice (25 cal). 2C coffee with 40 ml Hilo milk each (40 cal). Snack:10:30 1/2 stalk celery (3 cal). 1/8 pear (11 cal). 2 pieces mandarin. (5 cal)
Forgot my own pear, didn't I? Lunch : 12:30 2 slices wholemeal bread. (140 cals) Large grilled chicken thigh fillet. (120 cals) Tomato. (19 cals) Sugar snap peas (15 cal). Coffee with about 40 ml Hi-Lo milk. (20 cals) Snack: 4:15 375 gm "winter vegetable" soup (154 cal). White coffee (20 cal). Dinner: 7:00 150 gm lean grilled lamb steak (315 cals). 80 gm tinned 4 bean mix.(100 cal) 1 slice wholemeal toast. (70 cals) Broccoli (~ 1/4 head) (30 cal), 2 small carrots (20 cals) , 4 small mushrooms (8 cal), sugar snap peas (20). 2 tspns low fat french onion dip(20 cal). 1 tub diet apricot yoghurt (83cal).
Total: 1659 cal. Exercise: Local walk. 5.7 km / 3.5 miles. 1 hour. It felt like a brisk walk to me but not really pushing it or jogging. I was rather tired, and stiff. Anyway I properly timed it for once and it was 17.8 minutes / mile - which I might want to know some time (like now, to work out the calories). (374 cal). | 
May 7th, 2007, 07:47 AM
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