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March 28th, 2008, 01:30 PM
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Adios | 
March 28th, 2008, 01:32 PM
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good luck w ith the bank too | 
March 28th, 2008, 07:05 PM
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Rep Power: 18 | | Hey Steve,
I know your on a trip, but something for you to read perhaps when you get back. I know you've written above Steve Maxwell before and whatnot... but I found it interesting that he says NO cardio is better than doing cardio. Is this crazy talk to just not condusive to someone trying to loose weight. Do you think a dietary caloric deficeit is better than a physical caloric deficeit (I personally do a bit of both).
Anyways, I know I've read about you doing minimal cardio... I just want to know about cardio for weight loss and your views. Oh yeah, I know HIIT is the best type of cardio for weight loss too... and I think Maxwell mentions that anything over 20 minutes is a waste of time and even "cancer causing". I follow him up until that point... then I get a bit put off from his argument. | 
March 28th, 2008, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve That makes complete sense to me.... especially with the understanding of how our minds work. If you are told every single day of your childhood that you're inadequate... chances are pretty damn good that you're going to feel inadequate, even if you're successful, in adulthood.
Although physical traits don't define a person, I would imagine as you travel down this path of weight loss, it would help out the feeling of inadequacies, right?
Completely changing them I think takes a lot of mental reprogramming. A lot of management of self talk, focusing in on what you're saying to yourself and correcting it from there. | That is exactly it...that feeling of inadequacy...I know that by societal standards, I am a success but still, those voices keep coming in...
As I lose weight logic dictates that I would feel better but I still think 'fat' so my image of myself trails the reality. I requires LOTS of mental reprogramming...but I am trying to work on that, a little at a time...
Still, that fear remains. I am going to beat it one of these days. I refuse to let it own me forever... | 
March 28th, 2008, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Pooh Hey Steve,
I know your on a trip, but something for you to read perhaps when you get back. I know you've written above Steve Maxwell before and whatnot... but I found it interesting that he says NO cardio is better than doing cardio. Is this crazy talk to just not condusive to someone trying to loose weight. Do you think a dietary caloric deficeit is better than a physical caloric deficeit (I personally do a bit of both).
Anyways, I know I've read about you doing minimal cardio... I just want to know about cardio for weight loss and your views. Oh yeah, I know HIIT is the best type of cardio for weight loss too... and I think Maxwell mentions that anything over 20 minutes is a waste of time and even "cancer causing". I follow him up until that point... then I get a bit put off from his argument. | Honestly, I don't know him, lol.
But he sounds like an idiot.
I think cardio is good. Not only for aiding the deficit, but also health. | 
March 28th, 2008, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ali.smedley That is exactly it...that feeling of inadequacy...I know that by societal standards, I am a success but still, those voices keep coming in...
As I lose weight logic dictates that I would feel better but I still think 'fat' so my image of myself trails the reality. I requires LOTS of mental reprogramming...but I am trying to work on that, a little at a time...
Still, that fear remains. I am going to beat it one of these days. I refuse to let it own me forever... | There's a book you should check out. I think it's called Feeling Good. I have it on my shelf but I'm laying in bed and too lazy to get up since I have to wake up in a few hours to go fishing. It's a yellow book. It's written by David Burns if I remember correctly. | 
March 28th, 2008, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Honestly, I don't know him, lol.
But he sounds like an idiot.
I think cardio is good. Not only for aiding the deficit, but also health. | I've read more about this guy... he makes an argument (and a list of things that, including it causes cancer, which is what annoys me) that aerobic exercise is bad for you. He is all about the anerobics like HIIT. I'd like to link his blog but it's all about selling shit, the guy is impressive for 55 and has a client base that is impressive... you should google "Steve Maxwell top 10 reasons" or something like that. I felt angry reading this shit. | 
March 29th, 2008, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Intimidating?
How the hell so? | Steve- speaking as a new member here. Mal is 100% correct, it is because you have no issue telling people that they are wrong. A lot of people do not want to be told this. Also there is the 'epenis' to remember. You have a crap load of posts, giving you a very large 'emember'.
Also, so much advice is given in the posts that really if you search the stickies and your journal you usually find what you are looking for without having to ask a question- resulting in views.
Finally, some of the conversations that take place in here are generally interesting reading- especially to a new member. The curiosity of what is in a 500+ page thread draws people like a car crash.
Just thought you might like to observations from a new member. | 
March 29th, 2008, 03:10 PM
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Waaay cool..
hey post count matters  yup it does..
Hope it went great at the bank today.. and you and gordy wow'ed 'em...
and fishing ended up being some fun...
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March 29th, 2008, 05:03 PM
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Rep Power: 24 | | | All I am saying is that is a reason why people could be intimidated. Male, female is irrelevant- it is a fact of forums from what I have seen. | 
March 30th, 2008, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Pooh I've read more about this guy... he makes an argument (and a list of things that, including it causes cancer, which is what annoys me) that aerobic exercise is bad for you. He is all about the anerobics like HIIT. I'd like to link his blog but it's all about selling shit, the guy is impressive for 55 and has a client base that is impressive... you should google "Steve Maxwell top 10 reasons" or something like that. I felt angry reading this shit. | It doesn't sound like it wouldn't even be worth my try. Anyone that says cardio is bad for you is a moron. Sounds like another retard who read a few of the studies on HIIT and used falty logic to believe it's the be all end all of training.
It's not.
In fact, there are many instances when it would be counter-productive to use HIIT. | 
March 30th, 2008, 03:47 PM
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Rep Power: 182 | | [QUOTE=Bigguy;420056]Steve- speaking as a new member here. Mal is 100% correct, it is because you have no issue telling people that they are wrong. A lot of people do not want to be told this. Also there is the 'epenis' to remember. You have a crap load of posts, giving you a very large 'emember'. Quote: |
Also, so much advice is given in the posts that really if you search the stickies and your journal you usually find what you are looking for without having to ask a question- resulting in views.
| I hope that's the case!
Sometimes I think of all the time and information I posted on here and I think about how it could fill a pretty good book at times. Quote:
Finally, some of the conversations that take place in here are generally interesting reading- especially to a new member. The curiosity of what is in a 500+ page thread draws people like a car crash.
Just thought you might like to observations from a new member.
| Thanks for the perspective. | 
March 30th, 2008, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by maleficent If post count means anything (it's about as relevant as reputation  my epenis is biger than steve's epenis
Waaay cool..
hey post count matters  yup it does..
Hope it went great at the bank today.. and you and gordy wow'ed 'em...
and fishing ended up being some fun... | Haha... I didn't do a lick of work this w/e nor did I make it to the bank. I fished the entire weekend. Didn't get home until 9 last night and I just got home now, tonight. It turned out the one guy I really didn't feel like fishing with didn't go. It also turned out to be a very cool experience taking Jared's* little brother in his place. It was an emotional trip.
Jared = friend killed in car crash last year for those who don't know
I am definitely whooped though. I already called in sick tomorrow.
Tomorrow the diet starts. Hell day. | 
March 30th, 2008, 03:59 PM
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March 30th, 2008, 04:47 PM
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Rep Power: 182 | | | Yea, I caught a bunch of fish actually. No big ones which was disappointing but quite a few average ones. It was butt cold this morning though. So cold in fact, my line was freezing and the 'eyes' of my rod were turning into ice, no allowing me to reel in. |  | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
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