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  Journey, Not A Destination Post #7561 (permalink)  
Old March 31st, 2008, 06:34 AM
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you've probably mentioned it and my attention span couldn't keep up -how long are you going to be on this diet for? and how does this affect your personal life with food?

Like does Krista eat the same things you do - or do you just prepare two different meals for dinner?
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Old March 31st, 2008, 06:42 AM
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you've probably mentioned it and my attention span couldn't keep up -how long are you going to be on this diet for? and how does this affect your personal life with food?

Like does Krista eat the same things you do - or do you just prepare two different meals for dinner?
Here's how I explained it to Wishes last night which also answers your question regarding length of time:

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It's a modified version of a protein sparing modified fast (PSMF). If you research it, it's basically a *gem* the medical community conjured up to make people lose the most amount of fat in the least amount of time, while negating one of the biggest downsides of 'starvation type' dieting.... that being muscle catabolism.

The modification comes per Lyle McDonald.... the best nutrition author out there right now in my mind.

It's probably the simplest diet ever. One of the toughest too. The last thing I'd want is everyone here running out and doing it b/c a) it can screw with your head and there are a lot of teeny boppers running around here already with borderline eating-disorders if you ask me and b) if you don't do things right, there's a real chance for a nasty rebound in weight gain.

But back to it being simple.....

Basically the docs said, the only thing someone really *needs* to eat in order to stay alive and healthy is essential nutrients (amino acids, EFAs, water, micronutrients (veggies)). Beyond that, you don't need much.

Really it's just eating 1.5-2 grams of lean protein per pound of lean bodies mass, veggies, and omega 3 fats.

So for me, my diet will look something like 4 meals per day. Each meal will have a handful of fish oil capsules, some fibrous veggies, and enough lean protein to total about 83 grams per meal (65ish grams per meal if I eat 5 meals per day).

That comes to roughly 1400 calories, not including the veggies. I'm actually lucky that I'm carrying around all the muscle I am. Small women I know who do this diet on occasion who aren't carrying that sort of muscle only eat around 400-500 calories per day!

Basically I'll be eating a ton of fish, chicken, turkey, cottage cheese, egg whites, protein powder, fish oil caps (10 per day), broccoli, celery, spinach, peppers, mushrooms, cucumbers, lettuce, asparagus, green beans, etc.

Boring, ya.

But it will get the job done quickly, which I'm looking for. Plus, I like screwing around with stuff like this.

Probably more than you were asking for.... but it's good for me to think it out on paper now since I've only been thinking about fishing the last couple of days and when I wake up tomorrow morning, I'm going to have to figure out what I'm doing.

Oh yea, and this will only last for 2 weeks or so. Anything more and too much 'bad stuff' would happen metabolically.
Fatter people could do it much longer b/c they aren't going to have a 'metabolic-reaction' as strongly as someone in my shoes.

I also added this to the above when speaking with Wishes:

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I'm not aiming for a specific number. I've never done the diet before so I'm not so sure what to expect personally. But over 10 lbs wouldn't surprise me. You lose a lot of fat considering the amount of time were talking.... but you also lose a shit ton of water.

That's one of the reasons why this diet can screw with your head. Key word being one.

Someone could lose 20 lbs on this diet in a very short period of time but gain back 12 as soon as they introduce carbs again. That can screw with those who focus solely on the scale, which is a majority of those around here. But the weight regain is to be expected. It's just water. You still lost 8 lbs of fat (in this particular example) which is damn impressive considering the short time frame.

Something I left out of my original description is I'll be drinking a ton of water.... probably over a gallon per day. I'll also be taking a multi vitamin, some calcium supps, some electrolyte supps. I was thinking about throwing an E/C* stack in there too to control metabolic slowdown and hunger but I'm not going to do that this route.

*E/C = ephedrine, caffeine stack
As for if affecting my personal life with food, lol, I suppose you could say it does since I eat so little of it. But it's only temporary. And Krista and I will be eating different things for the next couple of weeks. We usually only get one meal per day together if we're lucky anyhow so there won't be a big difference there really.

The biggest change will be not eating whatever the heck I want. I never really limited my food choices before. I just accounted for adequate protein and EFAs and accounted for calories and from there, I pretty much ate what I wanted.

On this, my food choices are very slim.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 08:47 AM
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Good Luck on your diet Steve! Sounds pretty strict, but at least its only temporary.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 08:53 AM
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Thanks Trevor. Strict but effective. I'm very curious to see a) how I feel in ketosis and b) what kind of leanness I'll reach on this cut.

This is just the beginning of my cut.... a kick start if you will.

I just knocked out meal number 2.

8oz of ground, lean turkey breast
28 grams fat free cheese
2 grams fish oil
broccoli and asparagus

I'm also drinking a ton of water.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 09:01 AM
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Your diet is very interesting. It sounds a lot like Atkins with the low carb/high protein aspect of it. I'll bet Krista will love your Keto breath.

I'm not sure if I want my co-worker joining the forum, as then my office will find out what a pervert I truly am. I did hook her up with fitday, though.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 09:05 AM
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Your diet is very interesting. It sounds a lot like Atkins with the low carb/high protein aspect of it. I'll bet Krista will love your Keto breath.
In that the diet doesn't include many carbs at all, it is similar to Atkins. But it's a bit more strict than that. Plus, it's different in other aspects as well.

I'm hoping I don't get that side effect!

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I'm not sure if I want my co-worker joining the forum, as then my office will find out what a pervert I truly am. I did hook her up with fitday, though.
Haha, I didn't think of that. Well hopefully she figures stuff out. Feel free to give her my email if you'd like.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 09:09 AM
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Haha, I didn't think of that. Well hopefully she figures stuff out. Feel free to give her my email if you'd like.
She's away on vacation atm, but I will talk to her again when she gets back. I don't know exactly what her trainer had her doing--just the time involved. I had already thought of hooking her up with you if she needed it, so thanks for the offer.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 09:14 AM
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Old March 31st, 2008, 10:10 AM
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So I touched briefly on exercise while on this diet. There's not much to it. There will be no cardio at all. In terms of weight training, I'll only be doing 2 full body sessions per week. This is in place to influence where I lose my weight from. I'm not looking to break records or anything..... it's just in place to maintain the muscle I have. With such a strict caloric deficit, if it weren't in place along with a few other variables, chances of losing muscle would be pretty good.

Research has continually shown that training with a reduced volume and frequency while maintaining a high intensity (weight on the bar) is sufficient in maintaining strength and muscle.

Todays workout will look something like this:

Squats 2x6
Leg curls 2x6
Bench 2x6
Rows 2x6

Then I'll throw in a bit of auxillary work. Probably some direct shoulder and arm work along with some core training. The volume will be kept real low here. Something like 1 set of 10 or so reps.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 05:47 PM
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So I have one more meal to go today and I'm definitely feeling the effects of eating no carbs. Wow. My mind is fuzzy, I don't feel too well, and I'm already craving starchy foods. My workout, although the volume was drastically reduced, was tough as hell. I did drink one of those new low calorie gatorades.... the G2 or whatever. a) I needed some electrolytes and b) I needed to bump up my blood sugar for the workout.

One side note is, although I'm only eating 1400 calories or so.... down from 3500-4000, I'm not that hungry at all. Actually, I've been full most of the days. Protein is very satiating.

Plus, I think all the water has an effect.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 05:50 PM
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So I have one more meal to go today and I'm definitely feeling the effects of eating no carbs. Wow. My mind is fuzzy, I don't feel too well, and I'm already craving starchy foods. My workout, although the volume was drastically reduced, was tough as hell. I did drink one of those new low calorie gatorades.... the G2 or whatever. a) I needed some electrolytes and b) I needed to bump up my blood sugar for the workout.

One side note is, although I'm only eating 1400 calories or so.... down from 3500-4000, I'm not that hungry at all. Actually, I've been full most of the days. Protein is very satiating.

Plus, I think all the water has an effect.
Wow Steve you win points for dedication

Do you think the fuzziness could be from the reduction in calories regardless of how satiated you feel? Just a thought (not that I claim to know what I am talking about...)
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Old March 31st, 2008, 05:52 PM
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No, I think it has to do with the lack of carbs to be honest.
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Old March 31st, 2008, 06:08 PM
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No, I think it has to do with the lack of carbs to be honest.
Well, not having done what you are doing but having done a fwe stints at Atkins, it will pass. I felt pretty good when I was doing that diet.

Now mind you, coming off was a bitch but I was fine during...
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Old April 1st, 2008, 05:56 AM
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I'm pretty well versed in how to come off a diet such as this so I'm not concerned on that front.

My concern is not caving to temptation during these 2 weeks. There's no doubt that I'm already dreaming about starchy foods and once my body realizes I'm eatin g so few calories..... it will be tough.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 05:59 AM
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How about some nice mashed chicken breasts - or chikcne breaasts in the shape of spaghetti?

Not helping..

sorry...

2 weeks isn't a long time -think of how tasty that plate of spaghetti will be with garlic bread oozing in butter will be when you're done
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