I like that idea for both the forum and for your website... while your paying customers get access to you and gordy -having extras on the website that aren't available to mere mortals is an added bonus...

Good morning!

Just my personal opinion:

I wouldn't mind keeping the journal and then re-entering it online. I enjoy my exercise journal and it has been a great help. I have been pretty much writing down everything in my WLF diary anyway minus my pathetic weight amounts. In fact I find it helps. I can by the time physically do it, write in my journal, when I go to re-enter I can pretty much do it by memory. I DL'd a spreadsheet from Stronglifts but I ditched it and just swiped an extra day calender from work.

I would likely rather do that than mail a binder. Dont forget cost also. I UPS 5-20 sample binders a day and I can tell you. It aint cheap. Or fast. I don't remember where you are but chances are good that a good portion of the country will be 4-5 days away. Then it will have to come back.

I agree... it's something I do want to add once I forumlate a plan as to what exactly will be there.

Gordy still likes the idea of making all the videos private which I'm not too sure about. I like reaching people and that's something the general population needs as a whole bad... client or no client.

the videos are public... and they are superb...

However, the real value comes from actually knowing how to put an effective workout routine together... like how many of each thing do I do, in what order should i be doing them, how often... etc... I'd imagine that's what people would be paying for...

Thanks for the input!

We haven't priced it out yet and you're right... it may not make sense since we're trying to keep our services as cheap as possible which is another thing I've been wrestling with. I currently have a number of people on our online platform and a few are under different "price models" which annoys me.

But we were only planning on shipping the binders out once. From there, they'd be emailed the updated sheets and insert them into their binders themselves.

Our thought is a) it would make it easy for them and assure they're tracking what they need to be tracking and b) it would get other people in their gyms interested in what this binder with our logo plastered on the front is.

But again, the cost has to make sense.

Oh that most certainly is what people are paying for.

The videos are just that... videos.

They teach proper form, nothing more.

I would never charge an individual even for a program.

I charge someone when they want my 'coaching.' A program is a once and done thing. Add coaching to it and now you have a dynamic animal that is modified as you progress through your journey and tweaked based on feedback; psychological and physiological.

Gord knows this but he also knows how much work we put into our videos and it might be an enticing factor for a potential client rather than just giving it to them.

I think I've talked him into playing it by ear... if we're hurting for business, maybe. But IMO it's a great reason to for people to want to come to our site.

Not cheap...

inexpensive... reasonable... economical...

cheap is the polyester shirt that falls apart after 2 washings or shrinks beyond belief...

you guys aren't cheap... you offer a much needed service that is financially accessible to the majority of the public...

I misread that part. I thought they would mail the whole thing back. My bad. Yeah they could mail back the guts and you could mail new sheets standard mail so that wont be too bad.

I agree that the binders would be a good idea. But then again I sell binders so I always think they are a good idea

Great correction

Yeah and dont forget: They are getting a binder. Any trainer will recommend a journal. So this is a necessity. If they go to OfficeMax and buy a binder they will likely be out the same amount of money. Or even more depending on the qty you guys can order.

Yea, what I typed is stupid.

I'm not even thinking the client has to mail anything back, unless they want to. The way I envision it is simple.

We mail binder with guts

They fill out guts while they train

They either type up what they wrote in the guts or scan the original cuts so they can email the info back to us

We email them more guts that they put in the binder themselves

Does that make sense?

perfect sense...

and that's where i like the idea of pdf forms...

the client can print out the form and it looks all nice and purdy...

then they can fill out the very same form in acrobat reader (a free application avaialbe everywhere) and you can have teh form at the click of a mouse - email the contents fo the form back to you... (or into a database...)

Yep. Perfect sense. It is a good idea and must work because we do a several of them from time to time.

Thanks for the input guys.

Steve, you crack me up. I love what a straight shooter you are and how you bust people's balls. A+ for having a mind of your own and for calling people out on their nonsense. hahaha...I'm almost over the hurdle at work so I'd like to get caught up on your diary soon. You have so much going on here in one day alone it's hard to stay on top of it all!!

What's instore for the circuit training today? Is that posted in here a few pages back? Maybe I missed it.