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  10 Diet Myths from Real Simple Magazine Post #16 (permalink)  
Old November 23rd, 2008, 08:07 AM
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Thanks for posting that info!

Unfortunately someof those tips are off the mark, such as the one stating that carbs don't make a person fat. The types and amounts of carbohydrate one eats are critical to whether or not their body burns fat or stores fat. Carbohydrate stimulates insulin production. One of the jobs of insulin is to control whether fat is locked into the body's fat cells or whether it is released to be burned for ATP (the chemical that is the source of all energy in the body). Essentially, the types and amounts of carbs one eats determines whether their body will store fat or release stored fat to be burned to produce energy.
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  10 Diet Myths from Real Simple Magazine Post #17 (permalink)  
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Eating fat can actually help you lose fat. Check out this article: anthonydipasquale.com - check the "good fats and bad fats section." I actually eat avocado and take fish oils each day and find it helpful. My skin looks great too.
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  10 Diet Myths from Real Simple Magazine Post #18 (permalink)  
Old December 15th, 2008, 12:30 PM
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Cool Dietary Fat Helps Weight Loss

Nika's correct that the right kinds of dietary fats in moderate also help a person acheive weight loss. I've been eating almonds, avocados, olive oil, macadamia nuts, etc. as part of the Zone diet for 14 years. I also take an ultra-refined fish oil concentrate daily.

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Old December 15th, 2008, 12:32 PM
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Thanks for posting that info!

Unfortunately someof those tips are off the mark, such as the one stating that carbs don't make a person fat. The types and amounts of carbohydrate one eats are critical to whether or not their body burns fat or stores fat.
Sue, I'm not sure if you're still coming around here or not but just in case:

I've really tried my best to remain civil with you. You haven't given me a reason to do anything but...

However, you're seriously misinformed on a number of basic issues regards nutrition and the human body. This wouldn't be a problem in the least... however, you also spew your misinformation as factual instruction and speak as if you're coming from a position of authority in the nutrition field.

Your body will burn fat regardless of the carbohydrates you're eating assuming you're in a caloric deficit.

It sounds like you worship Michael Eades and if that's the case, my genuine advice to you is to pick another guru to follow. He sells snake oil for a living and is just about the most unethical researcher I've seen to date.

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Carbohydrate stimulates insulin production. One of the jobs of insulin is to control whether fat is locked into the body's fat cells or whether it is released to be burned for ATP (the chemical that is the source of all energy in the body). Essentially, the types and amounts of carbs one eats determines whether their body will store fat or release stored fat to be burned to produce energy.
So off the mark it's silly.

I bet in your world, speaking of fat loss, carbohydrates rule over calories.

Amirite?
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Eating fat can actually help you lose fat. Check out this article:SPAM ZAPPED- check the "good fats and bad fats section." I actually eat avocado and take fish oils each day and find it helpful. My skin looks great too.
The article very clearly stated that fat isn't the enemy...
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I've never read the work of Eades.

Calorie restriction is important to achieve the loss of stored body fat, and of equal importance in regard to efficiently burning stored body fat is the ratio of the macronutrients (protein, carbohydrate and fat) that makes up the calories one eats. There were studies done back in the 1950's which demonstrate this. The specific published clinical studies are cited in the bibliographies of Zone books.

Your reference to snake oil remindes me of something I recently read. Here's a surprising bit of info about snake oil, the term given to concoctions used to scam tons of gullible people a hundred years ago. I read that some of those preparations actually contained omega 3 oils. Omega 3's, especially those from fish oil, are now proven to reduce inflammation, so it's very likely the at least some of that old fashioned snake oil probably did do some good in regard to helping people feel better!

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I've never read the work of Eades.

Calorie restriction is important to achieve the loss of stored body fat, and of equal importance in regard to efficiently burning stored body fat is the ratio of the macronutrients (protein, carbohydrate and fat) that makes up the calories one eats. There were studies done back in the 1950's which demonstrate this. The specific published clinical studies are cited in the bibliographies of Zone books.
Maybe you should check current research.

Macros are certainly important.

Once adequate protein and essential fats are accounted for, there's not much a difference if any between composition regarding fat loss. Period.

Stop relying on cherry picked research that supports the sale of a product and start researching unbiasedly. At least if you're going to be handing out advice.

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Your reference to snake oil remindes me of something I recently read. Here's a surprising bit of info about snake oil, the term given to concoctions used to scam tons or gullible people a hundred years ago. I read that some of those preparations actually contained omega 3 oils. Omega 3's, especially those from fish oil, are now proven to reduce inflammation, so it's very likely the at least some of that old fashioned snake oil probably did do some good in regard to helping people feel better!
If you're trying to sell me on the idea that unethical research review and cherry picking carries some good... you're going to have to do better than that.
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  10 Diet Myths from Real Simple Magazine Post #23 (permalink)  
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Thanks for posting that info!

Unfortunately someof those tips are off the mark, such as the one stating that carbs don't make a person fat.
Specifically, how is this inaccurate.

You are suggesting carbs in and of themselves can make one fat. If you don't eat the 'right' kinds of carbs your body won't burn fat.

That is beyond untrue, especially in the face of a hypocaloric diet.

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So does protein consumption.
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  10 Diet Myths from Real Simple Magazine Post #24 (permalink)  
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Hi Steve,

I post here to share knowledge not to convince anyone of anything. I'm not interested in participating in what I consider to be unfriendly posting exchanges, so I won't be participating in this conversation any longer.
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  10 Diet Myths from Real Simple Magazine Post #25 (permalink)  
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Okay, you can appeal to emotion if you please.

Keep in mind that I'm here to help maintain the integrity of information. If you continue posting as an authority on the subject (see: the dissection of this article), your misinformation is going to be questioned.

It's really for the benefit of the community as a whole. It's not about you or is it about me.

I can't control how you perceive things. But I can control the integrity, so that's what I'll keep doing.

Take care.
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  10 Diet Myths from Real Simple Magazine Post #26 (permalink)  
Old December 21st, 2008, 07:20 AM
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Nice tips but you were not sharing about physical exercise in it? physical exercise is a must in weight loss, isn't it?
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I don't know but no spamming the forum.
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Specifically, how is this inaccurate.

You are suggesting carbs in and of themselves can make one fat. If you don't eat the 'right' kinds of carbs your body won't burn fat.

That is beyond untrue, especially in the face of a hypocaloric diet.



So does protein consumption.
I enjoyed reading what Mal posted.

Steve, I have read that insulin production actually reduces serum levels of cortisol, thereby making a person less prone to accumulating fat. Is this actually true?
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thank you about the information...especially in coffee.. i am a coffee lover...hehehe..my day is incomplete if i can't drink coffee...thank you



I LIKE TO SPAM

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