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May 24th, 2009, 07:46 PM
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Rep Power: 22 | | I was part of that club too, lol... think lots are
For myself, I am one that binges, and have done so for years. Actually since I was a child...but i didnt really know it was an issue until last year. I don't need to be hungry to eat...I put away thousands and thousands of calories per day. When my mom died, I think I put on 50lbs in a very short period of time. I honestly did NOT know what it felt like to be hungry, cuz i never allowed myself to get there. There were times that I ate so much, I would almost have a hung over effect for the next couple of days.
I finally went to my doctor and told him what was happening.
It will always be a battle for myself, but I have it under control for the most part.
Thats why i can honestly say that I was well on my ways to becoming that woman. Im just really thankful that I am determined not to be. I am also very blessed to have a huge support system. | 
May 24th, 2009, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Derrick I honestly believe that there are more people who are physically or mentally ill than there are truly healthy people. It is to the point that a truly healthy human being, both physically and mentally, is actually in the minority. | Isn't that a sad truth Derrick. I agree that you see more and more people that just don't feel good. | 
May 25th, 2009, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Derrick I honestly believe that there are more people who are physically or mentally ill than there are truly healthy people. It is to the point that a truly healthy human being, both physically and mentally, is actually in the minority. | Yes and it's shunned. We shouldn't talk about our mental-ness because we may offend someone...(as in general what society thinks as a whole) anyways
I think it's sad anyway you put it.
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May 25th, 2009, 06:38 AM
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Former Chief Deputy Coroner John Linehan said he was shocked and dismayed that appropriate steps weren't taken to remove the woman from her home.
He said that fire and medical personnel have equipment available for handling patients up to 1,000 pounds and that moving obese individuals is not all that rare of an occurrence.
"When they scoop up dead dogs off of the street they don't treat them that way," he said. "It's just not the way to treat a human being."
| That aside, what I don't get is why the child's father let her watch them take her mother's body away. WTH was he thinking? | 
May 25th, 2009, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ann38 ChefChiTown did you not read this part: | Yeah, I read that part. What exactly is his definition of "not all that rare of an occurance"...??? Once a week? Once a month? Once a year? Once every few years? How often do you really think that one, individual community has a 750 lb person die that needs to be hauled away with some sort of special equipment? I'm willing to bet that it's not too common of a thing.
Also, I've seen plenty of other stories from all around the United States (and world) that involve an extremely heavy person needing to be removed from their home, as they have died. In 100% of those cases that I've seen, the fire department usually ends up cutting a huge hole in the wall of the respective house/apartment to remove the person. Then, they use a forklift to transfer the body out of the house and onto a flatbed truck. When that person is removed, they are almost always covered in their own bed sheets.
I don't know if you've ever handled a dead body (or even an unconscious one), but dead weight is a lot heavier than it seems. And, when you have a 750 lb person, asking a few people to lift their dead weight by hand is out of the question. You need a machine to do that for you. In this Indianapolis story, they did just that.
So, other than the difference between using her own bed sheets and using a carpet to cover her up, I don't see what's so abnormal or disrespectful about how these people in Indianapolis handled the situation. Moving a 750 lb dead body isn't something that is easily done. It's going to be a scene, whether people like it or not. There is just no quiet, indiscrete method of accomplishing such a thing. Quote:
Originally Posted by Ann38 That aside, what I don't get is why the child's father let her watch them take her mother's body away. WTH was he thinking? | Because he's an idiot. People are stupid though, so it doesn't surprise me all that much. | 
May 25th, 2009, 12:49 PM
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May 25th, 2009, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ann38 ChefChiTown did you not read this part:
That aside, what I don't get is why the child's father let her watch them take her mother's body away. WTH was he thinking? | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben I don't see how the father/boyfriend didn't get help for her. How stupid is that? | Ah..it goes hand in hand, someone that is attracted to someone that is having difficulties to whichever extent that they are(such as the woman whom died) He is (an enabler) they both have what the other needs, so he would have "problems" as well. Weak ppl attract other weak ppl. It may sound cruel to say so, but it is what it is.
I would say that he is the type of person that was under a lot of stress/grieve, ect. Most likely was not thinking clearly. (hey, maybe he was) it just goes to show that it is not all that shocking of a situation of the BF letting the daughter watch this performance.
Anyways, how old is this little girl? 12-13? Children know a lot more of what is going on than what we give them credit for. I am not saying it was right of her to watch, VERY UPSETTING, the last straw to the camel's back. I hope she gets the help she WILL need.
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May 25th, 2009, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Derrick I honestly believe that there are more people who are physically or mentally ill than there are truly healthy people. It is to the point that a truly healthy human being, both physically and mentally, is actually in the minority. |
oh no derrick don't say that!!! thats a bit of a glass half empty thing to say...
i mean isn't that what we are all striving for?? some degree of balance & stability in our lives?? when you look at the world its sometimes hard not to see all the bad stuff thats going on...but the good always outweighs the bad. we bring our own perceptions/past/thoughts to the table with us...but there are many ppl out there who are able to lead healthy 'balanced' lives...
(notice i did not use the word 'normal'...not a word i particularly like...i have a son with autism who sees the world often in a totally different way from you or i...but hes not NOT normal...if you follow!! hes just different...)
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Reason: i said full instead of empty...doh me!!!
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May 25th, 2009, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RunningGirl Yes and it's shunned. We shouldn't talk about our mental-ness because we may offend someone... anyways
I think it's sad anyway you put it. |
i have a fridge magnet that says.... 1 in 4 ppl suffer mental health problems...
look at 3 friends if they seem ok...you're the one!!
hahaha....
like robin williams said...
“You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it.”
i cherish mine!!!
i used to suffer with anxiety/panic attacks yrs ago & have had depression too....so out of my friends i've always known its me!!! i'm THE ONE!!! i accept that...but you can imagine how blummin relieved they are to be such close friends with me...then they're 'ok'!!! (witches) whatever LOL....anyway no ones 100% ok....we're all a little messed up somehow....some just hide it better than others...we can only strive to be/do the best we can...& help others along the way if we can...oh & be happy...even if you have to work at it GODDAMMIT!!!   | 
May 25th, 2009, 07:03 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | I honestly do not understand how one could allow herself to get to 750 pounds. Something should have been done at 400, or 500, or even 600! It's very sad | 
June 10th, 2009, 04:39 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | It's unfortunate that this method had to be used in the first place. We as a society should understand the growing rate of obesity, and should have the tools necessary to handle these types of situations. | 
June 10th, 2009, 04:45 PM
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June 10th, 2009, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stardust2k4 It's unfortunate that this method had to be used in the first place. We as a society should understand the growing rate of obesity, and should have the tools necessary to handle these types of situations. | Yes because by having tools to deal with super obese people is going to somehow cure the epidemic rather than educating and forcefully putting people into bootcamp where they have to learn better.
Yes there is some sarcasm in this post, but in all seriousness, you cant act innocent when you are over 500lb and still tell me that you dont have any clue how you got that fat. And you cant in all honesty tell me that you didnt choose to put the food in your mouth or get others to bring it to you.
yes its a battle to loose weight, but that doesnt make it ok to not give it a go, even a half hearted effort will have you maintaining your weight rather than gaining.
I'm not anti fat people at all, I am however anti-bullshit-excuses. Like being fat and somehow expecting to take up 2 plane seats without paying for the second, or blameing McDonalds for your own obesity etc. | 
June 11th, 2009, 07:48 PM
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Rep Power: 22 | | But who is to say, that she wasnt trying... that she didn't die while trying...Yes, I agree 100% that we can not blame our obesity on anyone but ourselves. I put the food in my mouth, Ive eaten at Mc Donald's and I have also eaten until ive puked.. not a pretty site the last one, but the truth. I somehow have managed to put the breaks on at this weight (well, at over 350 pounds) and am slowly taking it off...but it is a huge battle that I do not win every day. I still binge, I still self abuse food... I still have the potential to eat until i puke. I can't give you a reason why i do... but when I am at that point I can't seem to stop myself. I have lived in shame about that my whole life. *because yes...that is how long its been going on)
I still feel, that when you get to be that size, it is far more that an issue of over eating.. its a mental condition, and it require some form of intervention by a doctor or counsellor, illness or death *which is one hell of an intervention)
You have done an AMAZING job of losing weight and regaining your health but not everyone is mentally or physically able to do that... that is NOT an excuse, its just an unfortunate fact. Quote:
Originally Posted by wishes Yes because by having tools to deal with super obese people is going to somehow cure the epidemic rather than educating and forcefully putting people into bootcamp where they have to learn better.
Yes there is some sarcasm in this post, but in all seriousness, you cant act innocent when you are over 500lb and still tell me that you dont have any clue how you got that fat. And you cant in all honesty tell me that you didnt choose to put the food in your mouth or get others to bring it to you.
yes its a battle to loose weight, but that doesnt make it ok to not give it a go, even a half hearted effort will have you maintaining your weight rather than gaining.
I'm not anti fat people at all, I am however anti-bullshit-excuses. Like being fat and somehow expecting to take up 2 plane seats without paying for the second, or blameing McDonalds for your own obesity etc.  | | 
June 12th, 2009, 10:47 AM
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