I found the piece that 60 minutes did for Hoodia:

African Plant May Help Fight Fat

Nov. 21, 2004
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(CBS) Each year, people spend more than $40 billion on products designed to help them slim down. None of them seem to be working very well.

Now along comes hoodia. Never heard of it? Soon it'll be tripping off your tongue, because hoodia is a natural substance that literally takes your appetite away.

It's very different from diet stimulants like Ephedra and Phenfen that are now banned because of dangerous side effects. Hoodia doesn't stimulate at all. Scientists say it fools the brain by making you think you’re full, even if you've eaten just a morsel. Correspondent Lesley Stahl reports.
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Hoodia is a bitter-tasting cactus-like plant. 60 Minutes was told that if it wanted to try hoodia, it would have to go to Africa. Why? Because the only place in the world where hoodia grows wild is in the Kalahari Desert of South Africa.

Nigel Crawhall, a linguist and interpreter, hired an experienced tracker named Toppies Kruiper, a local aboriginal Bushman, to help find it. The Bushmen were featured in the movie “The Gods Must Be Crazy.”

Kruiper led 60 Minutes crews out into the desert. Stahl asked him if he ate hoodia. "I really like to eat them when the new rains have come," says Kruiper, speaking through the interpreter. "Then they're really quite delicious."

When we located the plant, Kruiper cut off a stalk that looked like a small spiky pickle, and removed the sharp spines. In the interest of science, Stahl ate it. She described the taste as "a little cucumbery in texture, but not bad."

So how did it work? Stahl says she had no after effects – no funny taste in her mouth, no queasy stomach, and no racing heart. She also wasn't hungry all day, even when she would normally have a pang around mealtime. And, she also had no desire to eat or drink the entire day. "I'd have to say it did work," says Stahl.

Although the West is just discovering hoodia, the Bushmen of the Kalahari have been eating it for a very long time. After all, they have been living off the land in southern Africa for more than 100,000 years.

Some of the Bushmen, like Anna Swartz, still live in old traditional huts, and cook so-called Bush food gathered from the desert the old-fashioned way.

The first scientific investigation of the plant was conducted at South Africa’s national laboratory. Because Bushmen were known to eat hoodia, it was included in a study of indigenous foods.

"What they found was when they fed it to animals, the animals ate it and lost weight," says Dr. Richard Dixey, who heads an English pharmaceutical company called Phytopharm that is trying to develop weight-loss products based on hoodia.

Was hoodia's potential application as an appetite suppressant immediately obvious?

"No, it took them a long time. In fact, the original research was done in the mid 1960s," says Dixey.


It took the South African national laboratory 30 years to isolate and identify the specific appetite-suppressing ingredient in hoodia. When they found it, they applied for a patent and licensed it to Phytopharm.

Phytopharm has spent more than $20 million so far on research, including clinical trials with obese volunteers that have yielded promising results. Subjects given hoodia ended up eating about 1,000 calories a day less than those in the control group. To put that in perspective, the average American man consumes about 2,600 calories a day; a woman about 1,900.

"If you take this compound every day, your wish to eat goes down. And we've seen that very, very dramatically," says Dixey.

But why do you need a patent for a plant? "The patent is on the application of the plant as a weight-loss material. And, of course, the active compounds within the plant. It’s not on the plant itself," says Dixey.

So no one else can use hoodia for weight loss? "As a weight-management product without infringing the patent, that’s correct," says Dixey.

But what does that say about all these weight-loss products that claim to have hoodia in it? Trimspa says its X32 pills contain 75 mg of hoodia. The company is pushing its product with an ad campaign featuring Anna Nicole Smith, even though the FDA has notified Trimspa that it hasn’t demonstrated that the product is safe.

Some companies have even used the results of Phytopharm’s clinical tests to market their products.

"This is just straightforward theft. That’s what it is. People are stealing data, which they haven’t done, they’ve got no proper understanding of, and sticking on the bottle," says Dixey. "When we have assayed these materials, they contain between 0.1 and 0.01 percent of the active ingredient claimed. But they use the term hoodia on the bottle, of course, so they -- does nothing at all."

But Dixey isn’t the only one who’s felt ripped off. The Bushmen first heard the news about the patent when Phytopharm put out a press release. Roger Chennells, a lawyer in South Africa who represents the Bushmen, who are also called “the San,” was appalled.

"The San did not even know about it," says Chennells. "They had given the information that led directly toward the patent."

The taking of traditional knowledge without compensation is called “bio-piracy.”

"You have said, and I'm going to quote you, 'that the San felt as if someone had stolen the family silver,'" says Stahl to Chennells. "So what did you do?"

"I wouldn't want to go into some of the details as to what kind of letters were written or what kind of threats were made," says Chennells. "We engaged them. They had done something wrong, and we wanted them to acknowledge it."

Chennells was determined to help the Bushmen who, he says, have been exploited for centuries. First they were pushed aside by black tribes. Then, when white colonists arrived, they were nearly annihilated.

"About the turn of the century, there were still hunting parties in Namibia and in South Africa that allowed farmers to go and kill Bushmen," says Chennells. "It's well documented."

The Bushmen are still stigmatized in South Africa, and plagued with high unemployment, little education, and lots of alcoholism. And now, it seemed they were about to be cut out of a potential windfall from hoodia. So Chennells threatened to sue the national lab on their behalf.

"We knew that if it was successful, many, many millions of dollars would be coming towards the San," says Chennells. "Many, many millions. They've talked about the market being hundreds and hundreds of millions in America."
In the end, a settlement was reached. The Bushmen will get a percentage of the profits -- if there are profits. But that’s a big if.

The future of hoodia is not yet a sure thing. The project hit a major snag last year. Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, which had teamed up with Phytopharm, and funded much of the research, dropped out when making a pill out of the active ingredient seemed beyond reach.


Dixey says it can be made synthetically: "We've made milligrams of it. But it's very expensive. It's not possible to make it synthetically in what’s called a scaleable process. So we couldn’t make a metric ton of it or something that is the sort of quantity you’d need to actually start doing something about obesity in thousands of people."

Phytopharm decided to market hoodia in its natural form, in diet shakes and bars. That meant it needed the hoodia plant itself.

But given the obesity epidemic in the United States, it became obvious that what was needed was a lot of hoodia - much more than was growing in the wild in the Kalahari. And so they came here.

60 Minutes visited one of Phytopharm’s hoodia plantations in South Africa. They’ll need a lot of these plantations to meet the expected demand.

Agronomist Simon MacWilliam has a tall order: grow a billion portions a year of hoodia, within just a couple of years. He admitted that starting up the plantation has been quite a challenge.

"The problem is we’re dealing with a novel crop. It’s a plant we’ve taken out of the wild and we’re starting to grow it,' says MacWilliam. "So we have no experience. So it’s different— diseases and pests which we have to deal with."

How confident are they that they will be able to grow enough? "We're very confident of that," he says. "We've got an expansion program which is going to be 100s of acres. And we'll be able – ready to meet the demand.

This could be huge, given the obesity epidemic. Phytopharm says it’s about to announce marketing plans that will have meal-replacement hoodia products on supermarket shelves by 2008.

MacWilliam says these products are a slightly different species from the hoodia Stahl tasted in the Kalahari Desert. "It's actually a lot more bitter than the plant that you tasted," says MacWilliam.

The advantage is this species of hoodia will grow a lot faster. But more bitter? How bad could it be? Stahl decided to find out. "Not good," she says.

Phytopharm says that when its product gets to market, it will be certified safe and effective. They also promise that it’ll taste good.

I'm glad you found this product to be helpful to you, but as I mentioned in the PM I sent you, we don't allow spamming.

I did edit your post and remove the link, but please remove it from your sig as well.

thanks

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I apologize! It was never my intention! I have adjusted my signature as well. I just get so excited when something actually works for me. Have a great day, thanks for the great forum.

I am a little wary about taking diet pills, but after visiting the website, and reading the article these don't sound too bad? How many bottles did you use, or did you start out using, and how long did it take to start working?

I just want a little head start to my weight loss, to increase my motivation!

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Lindsz

I started out with the 3 bottle pack, and I could see good results in the first week. It is all about consistency. I would really recommend it, it got me out of my rut!

Sounds pretty interesting, but I'm also hesitant to use any sort of diet drug.
Just hear too many bad side affects happening.. ya know?

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So where can you buy this Hoodia...I'm very interested in it because my cravings are the main reason for weightloss failure. I don't get to get out very often and I'm pretty sure I eat out of boredom I think these pills would help ALOT...Are they expensive?

I have tried Hoodia it did help me a bunch!

I have just brought 2 months supply of Hoodia - My current weight is 184lbs and I am finding it really difficlut to shift to my goal weight of 150 - I used to weigh 218lbs and dropped easily to where I am now - but have been stuck on this plateau for nealy 18 months now - I run 4 times a weeks (usually 3-5miles) and eat sensibly but the wieght won't budge - have tried a lot of things and Atkins and other craze diets work but not forever and you can't keep them up for long.

Anyway point of the post was to let you know how I get on over the coming weeks.

Helen

There are so many Hoodia products how do ya know which 1 is the lagit 1?
I heard on a show once where there are also imatating versions so what one
should we look gor?
Even Gnc has like 3 different ones that say Hoodia on them?
Thanks from some1 that is in desperate need of help.
niapage sw/230/mini goal 199/ main goal 150

You sound like me. Last summer I ran 3-5 miles 4 times a week and I lost only a few pounds. My friend who is also a personal trainer told me that My body got use to the running and that I need to increase my workout to maybe 6 miles or do cardio...i told him to fly a kite...LOL. he told me to stay fat then...haha!!

But maybe the problem lays there. We just need to up the anty a lil!

I also started taking stacker 3...i think that has hoodia...not to get off the topic...Hee hee

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Hi I_luv_food...

Think I have forced myself to up the anty... Have agreed to do a 10K race in October and a 50K (!!!!) walk in September so need to start serioulsy training!!

I have also started increasing my weight training and bizarrely lost 2lbs in a week!! So may be your personal trainer freind ws right...

Good luck

Helen

Hi i'm new here =)
Im wondering if anyone can tell me which one really works? cos it's hard to get it (shipping and all) and quite $.

Yaayy!! good for you!!! Im glad u r gonna race! I wanted to do the marathon in NYC but thats just too much..id have to train all yr for that sucka!!

and yay for the 2lbs!! I gotta tell him for once in his life...he was rite!! He'll be thrilled..LOL!! Good luck with everything!!

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to be honest...I think im honestly through with pills. I started atkins last week and i already lost 5 lbs so I think im done with it. but if u feel like u must... stackers worked for me and my cousin...alot of people also say that it worked but its more if u wanna lose a few lbs... if u want to lose like 20 lbs or more diet and excerise is best

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