That's sad Genny.

I know you and I had a run in before on this forum. It seems like we have conflicting personalities, which is fine. That happens.

But I never put a label on you. I could call you ignorant, due to your refusal to accept the basic scientific facts/laws that govern us all. But I don't.

And preacher? That is the label you are going to give me? That is rather amusing, actually. If I actually cared, I would start a poll about who here thinks I help opposed to preach. You are one of few. Might want to let that tell you something.

I am sure you will fire back with something about me. And that is fine. I don't mind. It just helps me get a clearer picture of who you are. Mind you though. I discuss/debate the topic at hand. You dismiss facts and bring things to a personal level.

I am here to actually help people, which I have been told by enough that I do, so I believe it. A few bad apples won't ruin that fact.

I liked it better when you had me on ignore. Keep your criticism and rude comments to yourself.

Auntie Mal has a serious headache today not to mention in a supremely bad mood, can we please keep the firing to a minimum - pretty please with splenda on top?

thank you

can we please keep the discussion to facts...

ACTUALLY....

I really wanted your opinion on the subject. I was hoping we could discuss it since you seem to share a view of many others. It could have led to some useful information from you, me, or both.

But selfishness seems to have gotten in the way. It isn't about you. It isn't about me. It is about the topic, as hard as that might be for you to understand.

When shots are fired, let me know. For now, all I see is discussion.

Steve, you mentioned ketosis in your first post on this thread. What is that? And by low enough, do you mean low enough on carb intake to trigger ketosis?
Thanks .
Michelle

Ketosis (IPA pronunciation: [ki'tosɪs]) is a stage in metabolism occurring when the liver converts fat into fatty acids and ketone bodies which can be used by the body for energy. It was identified by Dr. Stephen Moody in 1969.

More at Ketosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm sure Steve or somebody else could give a more of a generally comprehensible answer.

Juliette

Thanks for the link Juliette. It helped a little bit . Still not fully comprehending what it is. Got the basic, splitting up a fat cell to produce energy on a larger scale than with a typically diet. And by restricting carbs. Wouldn't that really increase one's cholesterol levels, too?

Thanks,
Michelle

I made a post about this a while back over at the sister forum to this one.

Hope this helps you some. Its worded in a way where i was answering someones question but you can still understand it.

Its called "Ketogenisis" where your bodys intake of Carbs are strictly reduced and while your protein intake is heightened. Ketogenesis is a specialized process of the body in which when we encounter stress or starvation we rely more heavily on fat as fuel. In turn It means we burn more fat and faster at that However. Their are many side affects to this including destabilizing blood sugar levels (making onces insulin less affective.)

as well as the presence of "ketones" causes blood vessels to enlarge, which can cause pressure-related headaches.
As a result, people will normally become nauseous and sick, and you will not feel as hungry.
Besides headaches, nausea, and loss of appetite, and can also lead to bad breath.

If you can withstand the side affects and stay on the diet for quite some time, then good for you. However most people who can successfully shift their body into a Ketogenic state do not stay on the diet for long.

When you Exclude carbohydrates from your diet your body, certain chemical reactions begin to occur. The most important and obvious of which is a reaction called ketosis. Your brain is normally fueled by glucose, or sugar. When a ketogenic diet is in place it prevents enough glucose from being available to fuel your brain, The brain then looks for Alternative fuel sources. your liver starts producing whats called ketones, by taking in fat and converting it to these ketones. The ketones are then fed to the brain to help it stay alive. And the end result is a Glucose replacement . although as i decribed ealier, not always the most pleasant thing.

Thank you so much for that educated answer.

I can say I have done this before, have definitely been in ketosis and have dealt with it for months, as my body got used to the shift after maybe 4 to 5 days.

I have also found that it is very possible to lose weight while doing low-carb even by not forcing your body into ketosis.

Even if you are not in ketosis, if your body runs out of fuel from carbohydrates, it will switch to burning fat (which is one of the main reasons that it is suggested that if you are trying to burn fat that you do cardio for an extended period of time, with a controlled heart rate in your fat burn zone).

I have found that it works well for my body if I eat a SENSIBLE carbohydrate breakfast (a go-lean meal bar, and get some protein from some eggwhites).

For those who are not used to being low-carb, a mid-morning carb snack might be necessary to curb cravings or keep your energy level up (something like triscuits or a yogurt)

By lunch, I will have had all the carbs I will eat for the day, and lunch will be a big salad with grilled chicken cucumbers broccoli, you name it, anything green can go in (except green jell-o )

This way, my body burns off the carbs I ingested by mid-afternoon and then any workout I do will be tapping immediately (or at least sooner) into my fat stores, while still not depriving.

Remember that water, though. It's essential to flush fat.

If I'm dying for carbs later in the evening (that scary craving time) I have a stash of pudding made with splenda. Theyre 60-90 cals each (depending on the brand/flavor) and they hit the spot!

Hope this was helpful!

Can you explain what is meant by that?

well not only does water help keep your track clean (you know what i mean) but it is essential to your muscles while working out, and as we all know more muscle = more calories burned!

Water can also aid in filling your tummy so you don't feel the need to eat too much food to reach the "satisfied" feeling that most of us are striving towards when we eat. Adding a little lemon or lime to your water can help suppress your appetite, and adding an orange slice can even help control sweet cravings!

Our bodies ARE finely tuned, but sometimes our minds confuse our body's signal of thirst for a signal of hunger, which is why some advise to drink a tall glass of water if you're feeling hungry sooner than you would think you should.

Ever gone a whole day and only had a few sips and just felt miserable? I have, terrible headache ensues!

Our bodies just need water to lube us up, energize us, keep our tummies occupied, etc.

It has even been said that drinking cold water burns calories in and of itself due to the fact that our bodies then need to adjust their temperature to regulate due to the cold. (Sort of like shivering in the cold burns calories)

Hope that helped!

Thanks for that excellent explanation.

Now how about you explain how water consumption "flushes" fat, like Tom originally asked?