Well that is just despicable of that person who is impersonating you Steve. Shows how much time pathetic people like that on their hands. Really quite sad actually.

HAH it's just an internet handle. You could call me Ilicksheepsballs if that was my handle, and it wouldn't be offensive. My name is James. If a mod has priv to do so, you can change it up.

And since you were candid and answered a bullcrap question, I'll answer it as well. I have never personally taken steroids. I have been pressured and tempted to over the course of my life, and I have even gone so far as to buy them and put them in my nightstand, but I could just never get myself to do it. Their draw is crazy. Who wouldn't want "free" muscle? Look at the market for workout sup that are legal (most of which do dick).

In the end, I decided that I was already way too quick to flare up in anger without roid rage, and that if I added to a 60 inch chest that'd just be silly, and I'd have to buy all new suits.

oh yeah, and all the health problems too.

With all due respect to my friend Steve, but I sort of disagree. Not because I can backup this guy's science (and you see I'm not giving his name out because I'm not going to advertise his book unless I've really tested this out far longer), but how can you make light of the utter huge difference in my ability to control my hunger and cravings? Literally from one day to the next. I've been going months and months and months with the same cycle over and over and now I feel different, how is that explained if his reasoning is so way off. Also, he cites to other studies and sources for almost everything he says, so I was just curious in a more detailed way about why you feel he's so full of shit. Not trying to argue here, this is a genuine discussion to me.

Not much I can do.

I don't care all too much. People who know me, realize it's not me. At least I'd hope so. But if he's doing it on boards that I don't frequent often.... who knows.

Whatever.

the admin can change your name if you want it done... but I'm kinda partial to Pigs Pearls Before Swine is my favorite comic and Pig is r eally cute

I understand you aren't arguing.

Are we talking about the book, Mastering Leptin?

I haven't looked at it in detail for a while and since I've looked at it, I've read about 50 things.... so it's tough to recall specifics. But I clearly remember the guy is a terrible 'researcher,' twisting things to meet his criteria. He uses 'deep' material to sway the lay reader into believing he knows that the F- he's talking about.

If you aren't talking about this author or this book, then don't listen to the above.

But the bottom line is, leptin, albeit an extremely important regulatory mechanism in the body... has turned into just like any other major discovery dealing with metabolism. You have moronic people jumping at and grabbing hold of very complex data and using it to fatten their wallets... without ever fully understanding the actual data.

Bottomline being; if you want to learn about leptin or other such complex minutia dealing with the human body, don't buy your book from Borders or the like.

To add to this bottom line, there are a bunch of authors, I refuse to call them 'researchers', who've jumped on the bandwagon of writing books dealing with leptin. All that I've seen deals with dealing with leptin resistance in overweight people.

Claudia, leptin affects people differently. A big person dealing with leptin resistance isn't having the same issues as a leaner person dealing with volatile leptin levels.

I feel like I've been reverting back to Lyle McDonald a million times in here today.... but when it comes to Leptin, he's the man. He was the guy that really brought it to the public's eye.

Straight from his mouth talking about these authors:

And this which is taking the words right out of my mouth:

And this:

Look, if it works for you Claudia.... don't let me sway your decisions. I'm no God, that's for damn sure. Just understand that the reasons why it's working may not be why the author says they work. I've seen some straight up retarded recommendations work for people....

1 meal per day
10 meals per day
low cal
high cal
low protein
high protein
low anything
high anything
magic
voodoo

I try not to think in black/white terms ever and I certainly realize that there are going to be times when things I have absolutely no faith in, will work for certain individuals. But I always know that they're working for reasons 99/100 times besides what the diet/guru promotes.

that's the word about town, darlin

smooth talker - you're probably what -like 22 - getting an old lady all aflutter youare

Haha, no pig2big is fine... I just wanted to know. Thanks.

Very tempting.

I'm actually only one of two guys in my 'close' circle of friends who lift seriously that haven't touched them.

It's crazy how prevalent they are.

Most people don't even realize.

there's a book i almost picked up the other night -- steroid nation -that goes into it - and I probably will get it because the subject is really intriguing...

I'm sure most of you has seen this guy on TLC.... Greg Valentino the Retard.

YouTube - The Man Whose Arms Exploded Part 1

No one realizes. It used to be a TON easier to spot a juicer. Fat hose on one arm? Juicer. Nowadays with people knowing a lot more about how our bodies work, and how to eek all sorts of potential out, it is harder and harder to tell who juices.

But it is there. Big time.

Yea, and even in sport, including the Olympics.... majority juice. Bottom line.

you bastard... that video makes me want to vomit... but I can't stop watching it

Sick right.

I met that guy at last years Arnold Classic..... he seems like such a snake.