just make sure you drink a lot of water. when ephedrine is mixed with caffeine its a thermogenic so it'll make you sweat more and caffeine is a diuretic so thats another reason to drink water. if your worried about any side affects then don't take it. nobody can blame ephedrine/caffeine for their weight loss, its diet and/or excercise that will shed those pounds. search for vasopro at bulknutrition.com if your looking for some. and yes it does help big time curbing those cravings. just don't take after 1 or 2 or you'll be up all night. and expect to sweat a whole lot more when your working out!

Has anyone heard of or use Klein Becker's Anorex SF products? If so what were the results and do they really work. I read on line that it was #3 of the top ten products that really, really work. Is it worth a try, whatcha think?

Li

I'd just go with caffeine/ephedrine. Cheaper and it does work, probably around 10 bucks for a month or so, not sure about the anorex though good luck to ya.

Hi all
Im new to this forum and joined due to my interest in epherdrine which i was going to purchase with my next pay packet....however after reading the threads im not sure now. 3 years ago (something im not proud of but it happened) i became addicted to amphetamines (speed) and lost 3 stone (aroung 42 pounds) in 6 months i felt wonderful however slowly but surely i have managed to put 28 pounds back on through my love of wine ) i am very tempted to go back to speed as i know it works so i saw ephedrine as a legal alternative....i hve no will power so always look for the easy option i only want to lose 20 pounds should i go for the epherdrine or get rid of the wine ... my weight is making me very depressed ( great forum and hope everyone is well today ) take it easy.
regards
Gillychick )

hey there gillychick... i would suggest that while it is the tougher way, exercising and eating right are always the way to go... i think that you could add a supplement to give yourself a boost, but if you had problems with addiction before, it might not be as safe for you... try talking with a doctor and see what they recommend, and GOOD LUCK!! =)

ephedra is back i heard but i think its available in a much smaller doesage form now so people are not as likely to take too much of it.

Hi,Im a newbie,I took Duromine which is the australian version of phentermine,for 11months last year.It worked a treat,had loads of energy,no appetite and got heaps fit doing aerobics 5 days a week.BUT............
As soon as I stopped taking it I gained all the weight back!It was also expensive at $75 a month australian!
It doesnt change your eating habits at all,it makes you worse,it made me a full on binge eater for a few months.I have slowed down a lot now,but have all the weight back again to loose!
I strongly recomend not to take Ephedera or ephedrine or any diet pills as they are not a long term solution.They have also given people heart attacks/strokes!
I had no problems with them myself as far as that goes,but in America you can buy them on line without a consultation/perscription from a doctor!Totally unheard of in Australia!He checked my heart/BP asked if there was any family history of heart problems!
They are really scrapping the bottom of the barrel,if you are that desperate/overweight I recomend the gastric banding or some other way!
BELIEVE ME I KNOW WHAT THEY DO TO YOU!

I am very strongly against taking drugs to lose weight. Very simple there is no easy answer. It's all about lifestyle and willpower. I'm so glad Magenta stopped taking those pills. I'm sorry you gained back the weight, but now you're on the right road! I worried about you and the others because life was centered so much on medication. Not to say I haven't tried. I've used so many different diet pills. No matter how much they may help temporarily, they just aren't the way to go!!!

Here is an article on the Ephedra, Caffeine, and Asprin (ECA) stack. I'm not telling anyone to do it or not to do it, just saw that someone was asking about proper dosage and thought this might be useful.

http://www.epinions.com/content_2791153796

Anyone who has any questions, please feel free to contact me and I'll tell you about my personal experience.

Where can you get Ephedrine or Vasopro? At the store? I can't get stuff over the internet. I used to use the stuff and it worked great. I miss it.

Bjork

I just get my ephedrine from the gas station. It's labeled as Mini Thins. It's behind the counter (at least where I live) so you have to ask for it. If you do find it, just make sure they don't hand you the ephedrine free version! This happened to me the other day and I didn't even notice til I got home...

I just got my vasopro, and I've ordered some caffeione pills and since you're doing so well can i ask you what exactly do you do to lose the weight and how do you take the pills thank you.

Hi Monica,
Thanks for the compliment. I've actually been slacking a little the past couple of weeks but when I am doing well, this is what I do.

First of all, I have a pedometer and I make sure to take no less than 10,000 steps a day. If the day is coming to a close and I know I'm not going to get all my steps in, I will walk around the living room during commercial breaks. Also, I do 20-30 minutes of morning cardio on an empty stomach. I know there are a lot of different opinions out there as to whether or not this really works but I SWEAR by it from past successes. I must admit, I don't have to do much as far as weight training because I have a very muscular build, but in the past when I leaned out, I found success in using a total body band workout.

As far as diet, you can check out my plan in my diary at http://weight-loss.fitness.com/showt...?t=2241&page=9.

I take a break from dieting and training on the weekends. Some people can do this, some people should only have one cheat day or even one cheat meal a week. You know your body best so do what works best for you. Just make sure you do cheat so that your body has to keep guessing (and so you don't go insane!).

Okay, for my ECA stack, this website is the best I've found on the subject:http://www.epinions.com/content_2791153796
What works best for me is taking the following amounts three times a day.
24mg of ephderine
- 200mg of caffeine
- 1 aspirin
I take my first dose as soon as I wake up and then do my morning cardio. I then take another dose four hours later and my last dose four hours after the second one. During the first week, I have so much energy! After that, I feel pretty good but not so "up" if you will. I take it for five to six weeks and then stop taking it for a couple weeks so my body gets the shock factor when I start it again.

I hope that helps. Let me know if you have anymore questions.

Please talk with a Dr. I am no Dr. but this sounds extremely unhealthy and dangerous. I can almost gaurantee you will not see any positive long term accomplishments. My advise, DO NOT DO IT.

its still around. mostly in truck stops and places like that. It has a natural appetite supressent. It will give you the sweats and the odor that goes along with it. its quirky stuff be carefull...