I dunno, maybe I am just a cynic at heart, but I am noticing some interesting things going on in this thread. Seems a heck of alot of the posters here are brand new members, with 1 to 3 posts each. Now if you do google 18 in 4, WLF is the first site at the top of the list, not even the homepage of the program. Makes me think it would become a target for the owners of the 18 in 4 program to start a little propaganda of thier own.

So my question is simply this, and it is rhetorical, so requires no real answers, but how many people are "actually" doing this and making genuine posts, and how many are being posted by the folks over at 18 in 4 just to spark interest and try to get attention? I know most of it is negative in regards to refunds and this and that not working, but I will bet that it is creating enough curiosity that 18 in 4 has definitely made some sales based on this page. Not to mention sending a clear message to those who did buy it not to bother trying to get their money back, since it "is" possible, but not likely. More likely they hope you will just give up. They may even be trolling for people giving away the copies they bought by putting those "please send me the recipe!" posts.

I don't buy it. Personally I think it is all a hoax orchestrated by the owners of 18 in 4 just to drum up attention. Don't fall for it people. I think they are using WLF to do their dirty work for them. I have never seen a thread with so many new members here before.

And as for the diet, come on.... Testimonials on the website? I can write 50 of those right now for Sirants Fabulous New - Lose Weight by Amputation Program! Right Wow! No diets? No exercise? No pills? No Gimmicks? No Effort? Sign me up! Who needs 2 arms anyways??

No way.

Please remember the golden rule: If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

Our good friend mister Kevin Trudeau can attest to that, and has made a fortune selling snake oil and promises for years. These people will use every tactic in the book to drum up sales, even if it means slagging their own product just to get a few more people thinking about it. I would have to cry foul play on this thread. There are so many other threads in WLF that offer so much better and more realistic approaches to the problem of weight loss. Don't get sucked into creating a new Kevin Trudeau with your $27

sirant

wasn't chuckie the demonic doll in the movie child's play? chuckier I would imagine is a very bad thing.

I think most of us have tried at least one fad diet at one time or another. In any case, when you lose weight that quickly it is mostly water and you will most likely gain it right back. The best thing you can do is eat sensibly and get some exercise. Joining a diet like weight watchers or some other structured plan would also help you stay with it.
Judy

Personally anything like that, that requires you to send money before you can find anything out about it...not even worth it....

You are better off going over to your local bookstore and reading about someother diets, for free, and then once you find one that you think will work for you buy the book and I can guarentee the book will be cheaper then what this guy is charging.

Good luck!

I don't think so.

it could work it could not. all i know is if you even lose one pound he will not refund the money, thats part of the guarantee. go to 18in4.com/disclamer for info that is not on the home page.

If someone has this thing I'd love to see what he is suggesting, and just how safe it is. I would like to make comments about this diet but, I'm not going to pay $27 to do it. I'm a project about fad diets and this seems like a good one to add to my paper.I would really appreciate it.

Thank You

zock_ns@hotmail.com

I haven't been here in a while and it seems like this is one of the few places that talks about this diet. I was googling it after talking to my friend about it.. I haven't tried it before so I can't say if it works or not, but my friend just got back after studying abroad in London for a year and she tried it a few days before she came back. She said she lost 15 lbs. in the 4 days of the program.. She's gonna give me the info on this diet so I can try it so I'll let you know how it goes~

A few things I should say here.
A: The man on the website isn't skinny nor does he have six pack abs.
B: To all the lowlifes, asking for free copies to be emailed to them. Let this be your warning. It is illegal and I personally will notify James to have actions taken against you.
C: It's only 27 dollars, and some of you have more than that in weight to lose so quit the insults.
D: I don't know James personally, however, I've just bought the diet last night and today is my first day. Quite frankly, there are diets that I've tried which have surprised me with their results.
E:The diet specifies no exercise, so why are you exercising?
F:If you're a nurse, then why purchase a diet which you claim that you know is unhealthy:
Don't put down something until you try it or don't say anything at all.
I'm not a member but this post came up when I was trying to locate Jame's site this morning and I had to register to say all this.
It is sick to bash individuals hopes by saying these things, unless, you have personally failed at this diet.(excluding the nurse chick, because she was following some other cuckoo diet, who knows)
It's frustrating for ppl who want to lose weight and can't and once they get a shred of hope, to have other ignorant ppl debunk their choices is inhumane.
So what if we fail?
Let us fail! Everything is a learning opportunity.

Good luck to all those who are willing to try it or is presently.
Hopefully I'm lighter in 3days
See ya

If this diet is SO amazing, how come I've NEVER heard of it before

...c'mon

Or you could not pay money for some crappy diets, or follow any diets except for eating the foods that your body needs (read up on that) and exercising to burn off the foods that you have eaten and a bit extra to lose the weight at 1-2 lbs a week, for a cheaper and safer way.

Good luck.

So this diet may be too good to be true.. but has anyone had any positive results as far as losing the weight. I've heard alot of negative responses. Even if you lose 10 lbs, then start dieting normally, it's a nice jumpstart!

Let me know!

Good morning to all... I am another wondering what the 18in4 program is? Has anyone out there been successful? I am curious if it would work for females better than males and does age have anything to do with it. I really need to lose a few b/4 Thursday's trip. Can anyone help me out there? I am going on an interview and I have gained a few pounds since losing my job... PLEASE...[/FONT]

I am newcomer and I need help. Has anyone tried the 18in4?

This is my first post, and I would like to share my experience with this 18in4 diet. Today is the end of "DAY 2" on this diet, and I'm miserable. The meals are bland but anything tastes good to me with lemon juice sprinkled all over it (lemon juice and white vinegar are the only two options for seasoning food on the 18in4 diet). The meals seem like a fair amount of food and they leave me full but about an hour and a half later, I'm absolutely starving.

What sucks about diets like this is that you have no freedom - you have to follow the exact plan step by step, as opposed to on a low carb diet for example, there are certain things that you can eat as much as you want to fill you up when you have those cravings.

I'm not going to e-mail anyone the plan but I will tell you that it mostly consists of bland vegetables (green beans, squash, tomatoes) and the occasional bit of fruit, along with a small amount of meat. Basically, there are no carbs or anything to give you energy, which is why the diet demands that you drink at least 1 cup of black coffee each day (which is disgusting and makes me feel sick, but I drink it anyway). And every morning, you are allowed half of a grapefruit, which winds up being the food highlight of the day.

Since it's only Day 2 for me, I can't really pass judgment on how well it works. I haven't weighed myself but can't see any noticeable difference. If I don't lose weight I will indeed try to get my money back, but I'll continue to have faith. In the mean time, I have become so obsessed with food that it's all I think about. I'll report back again at the end of the diet, but if I don't lose any weight, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, because it leaves you absolutely miserable.