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January 17th, 2008, 05:48 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | Your opinion on my workout! Howdy partners!
I just bought a treadmill a few weeks ago and wanted to know if you all think this is a decent work out or if i should be doing something else.
I have been walking quickly on an incline for 10 minutes, then doing some toning exercises with weights, then doing another 10mins on treadmill, 2 minutes running then 1 minute rest walking really slow.
I've been doing and plan to keep doing this every day and making it a bit harder every few weeks.
Does this sound like a good idea? I hope so coz i spent a bloody fortune on that tread mill!!! hee hee, thanks for your time! | 
January 17th, 2008, 05:52 AM
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Rep Power: 182 | | It's a start.... and each 'proper' start for each individual is going to be unique. I think it would be more optimal to seperate the cardio from the weight lifting.
And what do you mean by 'toning exercises?' | 
January 17th, 2008, 05:56 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | wow you replied so fast I am v impressed.
I get tired after doing one 10 minute session, thats why i decided to seperate but i will deffo give it a try!
I have been doing leg lunges and squats and sit ups and doing these leg lift things with weights that i learnt at the gym. | 
January 17th, 2008, 05:59 AM
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Rep Power: 182 | | I'd try and train with resistance (bodyweight, dumbbells, bands, whatever) 2-3 times per week focusing on the total body.
May I ask your stats? | 
January 17th, 2008, 10:59 AM
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Rep Power: 8 | | Steve, feel free to correct me here. Is one of the reasons its good to separate cardio and weight lifting into different sessions because of it doesn't lead to optimal blood flow and because of that you will have less energy/oxygen overall than doing them separately? | 
January 17th, 2008, 11:49 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | I' 5"7 and 168 lbs. I havent measured myself with a tape measure though so i don't know anymore than this. | 
January 17th, 2008, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by paydirt Steve, feel free to correct me here. Is one of the reasons its good to separate cardio and weight lifting into different sessions because of it doesn't lead to optimal blood flow and because of that you will have less energy/oxygen overall than doing them separately? | That's not so much a concern especially at the novice stage.
The real reason I suggest that is very simplistic. Mixing everything up tends to decrease the focus on why you are doing each separate modality in the first place.
In my experience, novices trying to lose weight will almost always over-emphasize the cardio, more so when they do this type of circuit training when we know that they are both in place for unique, yet important reasons. | 
January 17th, 2008, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lotsaluv I' 5"7 and 168 lbs. I havent measured myself with a tape measure though so i don't know anymore than this. | Yea, especially considering you don't have all that much weight to lose, I'd segregate your resistance training from your cardio. Resistance training requires a lot of intensity (not in the aerobic sense as most associate exercise with) and said intensity will be diminished if you muddy the waters with cardio mixed in.
Especially when you don't have a lot of weight to lose, resistance training should serve the primary role of maintaining the muscle you currently have. In order to do so, that intensity from above must be present. | 
January 17th, 2008, 07:59 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | yeah..it is not only avoid eating its a combination of things...gotta exercise...do something.. thats a must..doesnt have to be a lot of exercise not lifting weights...thats one of the major mistakes...gotta run!!..thats it..first burn the fat..then build muscle...watch what you eat..not obsessively..that will just make you hungry..hehe..just eat what you want as healthy as possible ..small amounts more times a day..and drink water | 
January 18th, 2008, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dan82 yeah..it is not only avoid eating its a combination of things...gotta exercise...do something.. thats a must..doesnt have to be a lot of exercise not lifting weights...thats one of the major mistakes...gotta run!!..thats it..first burn the fat..then build muscle...watch what you eat..not obsessively..that will just make you hungry..hehe..just eat what you want as healthy as possible ..small amounts more times a day..and drink water | Not exactly...... | 
January 28th, 2008, 02:39 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | Steve, just seen some of your pictures. How long did it take you to get like that? And if you don't mind me asking, how much do you weigh? I'm 6 ft and about 250lbs. I want to lose weight and have a few muscles showing here and there. What's the best way forward for me? Because there are so many different opinions. | 
January 28th, 2008, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Huggett Steve, just seen some of your pictures. How long did it take you to get like that? | I've been lifting weights pretty seriously since I was 15. Not always correctly.... but still in the gym on a consistent basis.
I'm 26 now. Quote: |
And if you don't mind me asking, how much do you weigh?
| Fluctuates pretty wildly actually. When I'm cutting, I get down to the mid 180's. The peak of my last bulk was 205ish. Quote: |
I'm 6 ft and about 250lbs. I want to lose weight and have a few muscles showing here and there. What's the best way forward for me? Because there are so many different opinions.
| I'd suggest starting your own thread or coming to my journal in the future when you have questions such as this. It increases the chances of it being read and answered.
That said, I'd focus primarily on losing the excess fat right now. Fat loss is going to be driven primarily by controlling your energy (calorie) balance. You want to be in an energetic deficit, meaning more calories out than in. When this is the case, your body has no choice but to use up some of it's stored energy (fat).
This deficit should come from a combo of a balanced/controlled diet and adequate/proper exercise.
Before we get into that, why don't you tell us what you are currently doing in terms of diet and exercise? | 
January 28th, 2008, 05:49 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Well, i started going to the gym last Monday. Now, i only got round to going 3 times last week due to the sheer amount of aches and pains i had all over my body, i woke up feeling like i'd been run over.
Those 3 times i was at the gym, i was doing about 40mins cardio, (20mins x-trainer, 20mins cycling). I have pretty bad ankles, so i try to keep impact training to a minimum. I don't know how accurate the machines are, but they ask you to enter age and exact weight, and at the end they had calculated i had burned about 400 kcals over both machines.
I had read around that to do a bit of weight training would also help, something like, more muscle, more calories burnt. So i did some weights. I think that's where the aching is coming from.
In terms of diet, i've started to force breakfast in me. even though i'm not keen. Starting to get more used to it. Breakfast and lunch is pretty much the same everyday.
Breakfast:
Moderate Bowl of Cereal
In between:
Breakfast bar (131 kcals)
Lunch:
Tuna, Mayo & Sweetcorn Sandwhich (391 kcals)
Snack a Jacks (125 kcals)
Pepperami (126 kcals)
Dinner:
My dad cooks this, and it's always relatively healthy stuff. Stir fries, home made curries, pasta, home made soups. He doesn't cook out of the packet, put it that way. To be honest, i think he puts broccoli in everything, some wierd obsession, but hey, i like it.
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My main problem has been my sheer amount drinking. I'm going ok at the moment. I limited my self to 1 night out last week. Which involved about 6 pints of lager. I've been told there's about 200kcals in a pint of Carlsburg, and on a normal night out, i'd put away 10-12 pints (2-3 times a week). So from just cutting down the drinking am i bound to lose weight that way aswell?
Cheers
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January 28th, 2008, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Huggett Well, i started going to the gym last Monday. Now, i only got round to going 3 times last week due to the sheer amount of aches and pains i had all over my body, i woke up feeling like i'd been run over. | Beating your body into submission is definitely not the answer.
You want to ease into things.
Many people gauge the efficacy of a workout by how hard they are sweating, how out of breath they are, and how sore they are the next day.
That's not good.
Gradual progression from a conservative baseline will treat you best in the long run. Quote: |
Those 3 times i was at the gym, i was doing about 40mins cardio, (20mins x-trainer, 20mins cycling). I have pretty bad ankles, so i try to keep impact training to a minimum. I don't know how accurate the machines are, but they ask you to enter age and exact weight, and at the end they had calculated i had burned about 400 kcals over both machines.
| If 3 sessions at 40 minutes made you really sore, I'd suggest starting at a lower intensity by either reducing the speed you used or decreasing the time. Quote: |
I had read around that to do a bit of weight training would also help, something like, more muscle, more calories burnt. So i did some weights. I think that's where the aching is coming from.
| Ahhh, ok. I'm responding as I read..... this could be the case.
What did you do for weights? Quote:
Breakfast:
Moderate Bowl of Cereal
In between:
Breakfast bar (131 kcals)
Lunch:
Tuna, Mayo & Sweetcorn Sandwhich (391 kcals)
Snack a Jacks (125 kcals)
Pepperami (126 kcals)
Dinner:
My dad cooks this, and it's always relatively healthy stuff. Stir fries, home made curries, pasta, home made soups. He doesn't cook out of the packet, put it that way. To be honest, i think he puts broccoli in everything, some wierd obsession, but hey, i like it.
Cheers
| And what has your weight been doing? Increasing, decreasing, staying the same? Diet could certainly use some improvements. Have you ever heard of FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal | 
January 28th, 2008, 06:00 AM
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Rep Power: 182 | | [QUOTE=Chris Huggett;388990My main problem has been my sheer amount drinking. I'm going ok at the moment. I limited my self to 1 night out last week. Which involved about 6 pints of lager. I've been told there's about 200kcals in a pint of Carlsburg, and on a normal night out, i'd put away 10-12 pints (2-3 times a week). So from just cutting down the drinking am i bound to lose weight that way aswell?[/quote]
Most definitely.
I'm actually training a friend of mine at the moment. He's been putting on weight for the last year. I asked him about his diet and when he told me, I said there's no way in hell you're putting on that kind of weight eating that amount of food.
I then asked about drinking.
He was drinking heavy beer daily.
It adds up and doesn't do a lot of good, at all. Since then, we've reduced drinking to Saturdays only and he's dropped 11 lbs in 2 weeks and already looks a lot better.
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