| » Stats |
Members: 27,087
Threads: 30,542
Posts: 587,550
Top Poster: maleficent (20,075) | | Welcome to our newest member, nikhilshah | |
If you register for free, you will be able to post threads, vote on polls and lots more. If you have problems with the registration or logging in, please contact the administrator.
 | 
August 31st, 2009, 01:02 PM
| | New Member | | Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0 | | | How Many Times I am in the process of losing weight (like all of us here). I have a easy question (I have not been able to find the answer here): how many times a week should one workout?
I know the more the better, but is there a minimum? Should you rotate (I know you are supposed to switch up muscle groups). Currently, I am working out 3x a week (W, R, F), and have a personal trainer one of those days.
Thanks ahead... | 
August 31st, 2009, 01:07 PM
|  | Moderatin' | | Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,131
Rep Power: 72 | | Actually "the more the better" is NOT the answer. Overtraining can be worse for you than undertraining.
When you're lifting weights and/or doing bodyweight exercises that stress your muscles, you should allow a full 48 hours between workouts to allow your muscles (and your nervous system) to recover. (Yes, you can alternate muscle groups to allow you to work out every day - say upper body one day and lower body the next, but if you're doing full body, compound exercises, you must give your body a break by taking a day off between.) Cardio you can do every day, but you need to balance out the amount of cardio you're doing with the number of calories you're eating. You can burn too many calories and put your body into a form of "starvation mode" that way as well.
Somewhere between 3-5 times a week seems to be the average for most people who are successfully losing/maintaining weight. | 
August 31st, 2009, 04:42 PM
| | New Member | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Berekeley
Posts: 13
Rep Power: 0 | | in addition to what KaraCooks says, IF you do overworkout right away then your body will either:
1. plateau quickly. This means that your body has to adjust quickly to the sudden leap of activity and your body won't show physical results.
2. Injure yourself.
Also if you don't ease yourself in, you might get sick of it and fall off the wagon of working out. I've seen people go full gung-ho and then get tired of it within 3 weeks. They don't figure out a routine they enjoy and then quit | 
August 31st, 2009, 06:08 PM
|  | Member | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deos Fortioribus Adesse
Posts: 17,048
Rep Power: 182 | | | | 
August 31st, 2009, 07:02 PM
| | New Member | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lima, Ohio
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 0 | | Quote:
Actually "the more the better" is NOT the answer. Overtraining can be worse for you than undertraining.
When you're lifting weights and/or doing bodyweight exercises that stress your muscles, you should allow a full 48 hours between workouts to allow your muscles (and your nervous system) to recover. (Yes, you can alternate muscle groups to allow you to work out every day - say upper body one day and lower body the next, but if you're doing full body, compound exercises, you must give your body a break by taking a day off between.) Cardio you can do every day, but you need to balance out the amount of cardio you're doing with the number of calories you're eating. You can burn too many calories and put your body into a form of "starvation mode" that way as well.
Somewhere between 3-5 times a week seems to be the average for most people who are successfully losing/maintaining weight.
| Although 48 hours is ok, I believe 72 hours is much better for the average person. I say this because when you do a good biceps workout on monday, they probably won't be sore until tuesday or wednesday. And contrary to what some people say, yes they should be sore for at least a day. This is how you know that you tore the muscle down and it will regrow bigger with proper nutrition of course. So in the above example, I wouldn't work out the biceps again until thursday or friday. It depends on your body. You will develop a mind/muscle connection after a few months and you will know when and how often you can work the same muscle group. | 
September 1st, 2009, 07:24 AM
|  | Member | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deos Fortioribus Adesse
Posts: 17,048
Rep Power: 182 | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ajcurl Although 48 hours is ok, I believe 72 hours is much better for the average person. I say this because when you do a good biceps workout on monday, they probably won't be sore until tuesday or wednesday. | First, anyone who has a day dedicated solely to bicep work is misguided.
Second, 48-72 hours is the general rule of thumb for recovery based on what we know about protein synthesis supercompensation. Quote: |
And contrary to what some people say, yes they should be sore for at least a day. This is how you know that you tore the muscle down and it will regrow bigger with proper nutrition of course.
| Actually no, delayed onset muscle soreness is not an indicator of this. | 
September 1st, 2009, 07:26 AM
| | New Member | | Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0 | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve | Thanks all! I have read a lot of the stickies, but I missed this one I think. I will read it next.
My goal is 3x a week, and so far, only one week has happened with that. This week will only be 2x, but after that I hope to maintain the 3x. For me to go to the gym 3x last week alone was a great accomplishment (and I enjoyed it).
Last edited by skippen; September 1st, 2009 at 07:29 AM.
| 
September 1st, 2009, 12:00 PM
| | New Member | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lima, Ohio
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 0 | | Quote:
First, anyone who has a day dedicated solely to bicep work is misguided.
Second, 48-72 hours is the general rule of thumb for recovery based on what we know about protein synthesis supercompensation.
Quote:
And contrary to what some people say, yes they should be sore for at least a day. This is how you know that you tore the muscle down and it will regrow bigger with proper nutrition of course.
Actually no, delayed onset muscle soreness is not an indicator of this.
| Easy there. Training biceps on monday is just an example. Everything I know about working out is from real world experience on my own body and from fellow bodybuilders. All I mean is don't workout the same gruop of muscles if they are still sore. You can show me all the scientific proof you want about delayed muscle soreness. If you don't experience delayed muscle soreness then you didn't do anything to the muscle is all I am trying to say. | 
September 1st, 2009, 12:09 PM
|  | Member | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deos Fortioribus Adesse
Posts: 17,048
Rep Power: 182 | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ajcurl Easy there. | Haha, breathe. Don't insert tone in my posts as so many are inclined to do. I'm "easy." Trust me. Just being factual. Quote: |
Training biceps on monday is just an example.
| Fair enough. This doesn't change the validity of my statement. Quote: |
Everything I know about working out is from real world experience on my own body and from fellow bodybuilders.
| Cool. Quote: |
All I mean is don't workout the same gruop of muscles if they are still sore. You can show me all the scientific proof you want about delayed muscle soreness. If you don't experience delayed muscle soreness then you didn't do anything to the muscle is all I am trying to say.
| Right.
And what I'm saying is this is false.
We know what contributes to hypertrophy and DOMS is not one of the required factors. There is plenty of data on this. And if you want to throw science out the window, as you seem inclined to do, anecdote speaks for itself. I train for a living. I get paid to help people lose fat and build muscle. Also, I personally have an above-average level of muscle mass myself.
The goal of my client's workouts as well as my own is not to induce soreness. That would be silly.
If you care to educate yourself a bit on the subject, you might enjoy reading one of the better pieces I've seen on the subject of DOMS. If not, suit yourself. No skin off my back. Why Your Muscles Get Sore: Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) and Exercise | AmpedTraining.com | Matthew Perryman, CSCS
Just realize I don't consider *you* when I'm replying to posts. I don't know you and my reply has nothing to do with you. I only apply based on the information that's presented and my intentions are solely to maintain the integrity of information. | 
September 1st, 2009, 12:09 PM
|  | Moderatin' | | Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,131
Rep Power: 72 | | Quote: |
If you don't experience delayed muscle soreness then you didn't do anything to the muscle is all I am trying to say.
| That is a HUGE load of horse hockey.
If you experience DOMS, then you're overworking. There's a difference between a nice stretchy "worked muscle" feeling and DOMS. DOMS is painful, usually worse the 2nd day, and often makes regular daily activities difficult. It can actually discourage new people from continuing with a reasonable exercise plan because they think they are going to be in pain all the time.
I think you need to do more research before you offer advice to people who are looking for genuine help. | 
September 1st, 2009, 07:37 PM
| | New Member | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lima, Ohio
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 0 | | Honestly all I can say is wow! Because I do not get paid to train people I don't know what I'm talking about? I need to do more research? I'm not a big arguing type of person but when what I have to say is said to be untrue it does make me think about my knowledge. There are hundreds of people who know me as someone who researches way to much. Research only goes so far. You could litterally research for 24 hours on one aspect of lifting weights for example and come up with 10 different "truths". I suppose if all scientific research were sanctioned by one governing body it would be more valid. There are just to many variables when it comes to the research. This is just my opinion and its way off the subject of this thread. Sorry, got carried away a little bit. | 
September 1st, 2009, 07:38 PM
|  | Moderatin' | | Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,131
Rep Power: 72 | | I never said that you don't know what you're talking about because you aren't a paid trainer.
You are wrong to be telling people that they have to experience pain to train properly. Flat out wrong. This is not a matter of opinion, any more than it's a matter of opinion that food has calories. | 
September 1st, 2009, 07:57 PM
| | New Member | | Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 0 | | | I think for me so far is two to three times a week depends on your tight schedule if you still have some time to work out. two to three times plus a 2hrs or 3hrs work out is already enough for it. |  | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
Similar threads to How Many Times | | Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post | 3rd Times a Charm!
3rd Times a Charm!: REDICULOUS! I keep falling out of this, and I... | Jess393 | Weight Loss Diary | 807 | August 5th, 2009 11:59 PM | Third times a Charm
Third times a Charm: Hey Everyone,
I'm not new to dieting or... | Jadien Rae | Newcomers | 1 | December 4th, 2008 11:02 AM | Eating multiple times a day vs. 3 times; effect of caffeine and weight loss
Eating multiple times a day vs. 3 times; effect of caffeine and weight loss: hey,
I have tried looking for a clear thread... | ap0258 | Advanced Weight Loss | 8 | November 14th, 2008 05:30 AM | Third times a charm?
Third times a charm?: Hello group,
Just started a new... | zookeeperk9 | Newcomers | 7 | September 4th, 2007 03:03 PM | Okay...3rd times a charm, right?
Okay...3rd times a charm, right?: Senior year is coming up, and I need to get into... | kristib135 | Weight Loss Diary | 52 | July 1st, 2007 10:39 PM |
Other threads in forum Weight Loss Through Exercise | | Thread | Date | Thread Starter | Replies | Last Post | Any ideas?
Any ideas?: Hi everyone. I'm making this post because I'm...
| August 26th, 2009 | organism | 6 | September 13th, 2009 05:46 PM | Home Gym help
Home Gym help: I'm in my teens, and i'm "chunky" you could say....
| July 29th, 2009 | dgarner2620 | 9 | August 28th, 2009 01:21 AM | Advice needed
Advice needed: I am currently doing the C25k, I'm on week 2 day...
| August 3rd, 2009 | AmberSD | 6 | August 5th, 2009 12:16 PM | Full body and split workout
Full body and split workout: For the past while i've been doing a split...
| June 11th, 2009 | ston5 | 4 | June 11th, 2009 05:07 PM | |